Re: Badarayana
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• February 25, 2001
Please see below: In a message dated 2/23/01 4:52:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, sada@anvil.nrl.navy.mil writes: > I also have question about Shreemad Bhaagavatam which is also > attributed to Vyaasa- As I understand Shankara Bagavat paada has not > quoted any thing from Bhaagavatam. Is that text from post Shankara > period? VA: The date of Srimadbhagavatam is still a matter of dispute. There are certainly several archaisms in the language of the text, which have been studied by scholars. J A B van Buitenen curiously takes these archaisms as a consious attempt by the Puranakara to give it the semblance of an old work (See Pg. 223-242 of Studies in Indian Literature and Philosophy/ J A B van Buitenen; Motilal Banarsidass; 1988- a compilation of his scattered journal articles). Citations from the Purana occur late (missing even from the Vishnusahasranama Bhashya attributed to Bhagvatpada) and to my knowledge, the oldest texts citing the Purana are the Matharavrtti on Samkhyakarika of Isvarakrishna (again, undated but perhaps close to Shankara's times) and a work of Abhinavagupta (his Gitabhashya? Will have to check). Then, the Neelakesi, a Tamil Jaina work quotes some verses below which occur in the Bhagvatam: 1. Vyasa, born of a dancing girl, became a great Rishi; Hence, it is tapas that makes one a Brahmin, and not his birth. 2. Sakti, born of a Chandala woman, became a great Rishi. Hence, it is tapas that makes one a Brahmin, and not his birth. 3. Parasara, born of SwapAki, became a great Rishi; Hence, it is tapas that makes one a Brahmin, and not his birth. 4. Vyasa, born of a fisherwoman, became a great Rishi; Hence, it is tapas that makes one a Brahmin, and not his birth. I do not know if these verses occur in some other Purana as well. There are other problems- the text of Neelakesi is not dated precisely and I have encountered dates from 100 AD to 800 AD. Moreover, the translation that I used (A. Chakravarti; Neelakesi, the Original Text and the Commentary of Samaya Divakara Vamana Muni; Kumbhakonam; 1936) does not clarify if the section of the text is from the original text of Neelakesi or if it belongs to a late commentary found on the text. Maybe a Tamil scholar could help us decide by checking the original text in Tamil and adding more details on this reference. >Reference to Kapila is there in B. Giita - Ch.10. I assumed > this Kapila is the daarshanika of sankhya. Lord Krishna, listing his > vibhuuti-s, says I am kapila muni. But again there is Bhagavaan > Kapila as the incarnation of Lord MahavishhNu in Bhaagavatam, > teaching sankhya to his mother. Vishal, as you might have noticed in > my notes on Brahmasuutra in adviata list, I differentiated these two > kapila-s - that does not mean I am clear on these. Any help in > sorting out these. VA: There are not 2 but 4 Kapilas spoken of in the Puranas!! This might well be a later attempt to cover up for the embarassment of earlier prestige of Samkhya which became the favorite whipping boy of Daarshanikas of all stripes in later times. A certain animosity existed towards Kapila in ancient times as well because of the opposition of his followers to the Vedic Karmakanda (see the Kapila-Go Samvaad of Mahabharata Shanti Parva). In the Baudhayana Dharmasutra, a Purvapaksha is cited wherein Kapila is called an Asura who created the Asrama system to delude people. In the Yatidharmasamucchaya of Yadava Prakash, a contemporary tradition is noted according to which the division of Sannyasins into 4 classes (Bahudaka etc.) was the invention of the folloers of Kapila. Thus, the invention of multiple Kapila's could well be a reflection of the ambiguity with which Indian tradition looked at him. Incidently, his Ashram is said to be at Siddhapur (where the Sarasvati met the ocean- close to Chhota Rann of Kutch) and also at Gangasagar (where the Hooghly meets the Bay of Bengal). Siddhapur as such was devastated when the Islamic invaders destoyed the Rudramahalaya and other shrines there and thereafter, the Matrshraddha and other rites of N Indian Hindus associated with the site have never been revived. Some of my relatives however still undertake pilgrimages to Gangasagar during the Mela there. A good summary of various Kapilas is contained in Chakrabarti, Pulinbehari; Origin and Development of the Samkhya Thought and Samkhya darsana ka itihasa; Udayvira Shastri; Virajanand Vaidik Sodha Samshthana; Ghaziabad (reprinted by Vijakumar Govindram Hasanand; Delhi) > Yes I followed that discussion. I am aware of Shankara's > interpretation. If I recall, Shree Madhva also assumes those > suutra-s refer to sankya and yoga only. I have not yet studied Shree > Bhaashya to see how Bhagavaan Ramaanuja interpreted the suutra-s. > You presented an interesting thoughts in your postings. I may refer > to them when my notes on the suutra-s reach that point. VA: Well, just to clarify, my interpretation was not based on the Sribhashya. Infact, since you are BS 1.1.4, you should definitely refer to the Sribhahsya at this stage because the most lengthy comment is over before this Sutra in that work and much of the criticism of Advaita Vedanta is also over by then. > >VA: There could have been more than one Brahmasutras. Infact, the > references > >to specific views of the Acharyas mentioned in the Brahmasutras in other > >texts as well forces us to draw this conclusion. > > Very interesting - more than one Brahmasuutra-s! Is this conclusion > supported by traditional logicians? VA: By thetime of Shabara and Shankara, the Mimamsa systems had already standardized around the texts of Jaimini and Badarayana (or whoseover is the BS-kaara) just as the Vyakarana of Panini eclipsed the texts of his predecessors like Apisali, Shakatayana etc. Similar standardization is seen in other areas as well- Sakala RV almost absorbing all other Sakhas of RV (with exceptions like Malabar and Gujarat). However, in the Naishkarmyasiddhi, the Sarirakasutras of Jaimini are clearly mentioned. Refer the Suresvaracharya's svopajnavrtti titled 'Sambandhokti' on Naishkarmyasiddhi 1.91 wherein the context makes it clear that it is Jaimini whose Sariraka sutras are implied (despite unnecessary insertions like 'tadguru' etc. by the later commentators). > > I > am not aware of Panchashikha - is this sankhya used in a general > sense as Vedantic knowledge or used as sankhya as darshhana of Kapila > or completely different from these two. VA: Panchasikha was the disciple of Asuri, who in turn was the disciple of Kapila. Form the penultimate verse of Samkhyakarika, it is clear that Kapila and Asuri did not write much on the system (although Kapila is the founder) and it is Panchasikha who composed most of the texts of the school ('tena cha bahudha krtam tantram'). Under Brahmasutra 2.1.4 as well, Panchasikha is called 'Paramarshi' and his text is called 'Tantra' . The actual name of the text was 'Sashtitantra' as known from numerous sources. In the course of time, Samkhya itself split into numerous schools and the dominant stream was the one proposed by Panchasikha (with schools of others like Varshaganya, Vindhyavasin and Panchadhikaran- who is quoted by Padmapada in Prapancasaravivarana). K, A and Pancasikha are mentioned by name in the Srutisarasamuddharanam of Sri Totakacharya (see http://www.voi.org/vishal_agarwal/totaka.html ) The extant Samkhyasutras are sometimes called 'Pancasikha pravachasutras' which could mean that they are extracted from the Shastitantra. Kramadipika, a commetary on the Tattvasamasasutras is sometimes attributed to him. The attribution of all texts of Samkya to Kapila is similar to attributing statements from Sabarabhahsya to Jaimini. Such a practice is seen very often in Indian texts- that of attributing later texts to the founders of their respective schools. Thus, Vyasabhashya is quoted under Yogasutrakrt Patanjali's name sometimes and so on. To end, the Srutaprakasika quotes an older commentator on the BS to the effect that the naastika elements of of Samkhya etc, were added later on. He says: " All the four of the Agamas praised by Badrayana in the Mahabharata were originally wholly authoritative and totally without conflict with the Vedas, since their original propounders are omniscient lords who are completely without any of the faults that would vitiate their intrinsic validity. However, in the case of each of these four Agamas, non-authoritative aspects in conflict with the Vedas crept in because of faults in the intellects of the composers of later books that were based upon and attempted to interpret the original Agama. Therefore, Badrayana in the Tarkapada of the Brahma Sutras intended to refute those secondary, non-Vedic aspects that were imposed upon the original Agamas by later fallible human authors who did not correctly grasp the intention of the original infallible composers." The agamas in question are Samkhya, Yoga, Pancharatra and Yoga. 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