Re:new member
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• February 21, 2001
Dear venkataraman, Welcome to the group :- You asked :- >>With the eagerness of a new member I am starting my >>participation - I had the opportunity to be asked the >>following and I put it to the group for further >>elucidation: >>1. "Is the surrender at the feet of the Lord >>Naaraaayana more sublime, more important, more >>necessary than a surrender to one's ['Janma Hetu'] - >>parents, and one's SadGuru? The answer to this question is both yes and no. The following is the reply for "yes". As Narayana,who has infinite auspicious qualities and is a blend of both supremely good character and strength to protect devotees unparalled by any other entity,is the only reality having all the cit i.e jiva atmas and acit i.e prakriti as his attributes or body,he is truely all in all i.e father,mother,guru etc to every jiva atma.From the worldly point of view or from the point of view of identification with our present body,we all have father,mother,wife,children etc,but these relationships have meaning only from this point of view and is temporary.But,from the point of view of the true nature of jiva atma all are equal qualitatively and there the terms like father,mother,guru etc apply properly only to sriman narayana.As the later relationship confirms with eternal reality as compared to the former which is temporary,surrender to lord narayana is proper and logical. The answer to the term "No" :- If our parents and sadguru have the knowledge as mentioned above and are bhagavathas themselves i.e who serve lord sriman narayana with the above knowledge,then surrender to them is same as surrender to lord narayana like surrender of madhura kavi alwar to nammalwar because a devotee of lord narayana always dwells in the thought of narayana and Lord in turn will always be with the devotee as mentioned in the gita.This is why alwars and many devotees say"Oh lord,Let me be a servant of your servant's servant". >>2. Can surrender be of differing shades - i.e., the >>surrender to the Lord being the highest form of >>surrender and all other surrendering being of lower >>nature? Surrender to the lord and his devotees is proper according to the reality and then only it will have some meaning and correct result.Surrender to other persons who are disposed otherwise is a result of ignorance and leads to pain.For more on this,read the last portions of vedartha sangraha of Bhagavad Ramanuja where this is discussed in more detail. >>3. Can a surrender to the Lord without the blessings >>of one's parents and Sadguru result in Liberation? This has been answered in the answer for the first question,but i will add more to this.A True parent and sadguru is one who wishes good to his child or student respectively.The term "good" for a person is confirmation of himself with the reality i.e as the shesha or servant of Lord sriman narayana.If one forsakes the blessings of a parent and guru who are properly disposed,then surrender to the lord is meaningless.But,if the parents and the guru are disposed otherwise,then their blessings or surrender to them is improper.Take the case of hiranyakashipu and prahalada and compare it with the case of Rama and Dasharatha or his guru,the conclusions arising out of this will answer your question. >>I am asking these for my own benefit as also for >>those having doubts on these matters. I thank you and appreciate you for asking these questions.I hope the answers satisfy you.All the errors are mine and you are welcome to write to me for more discussion. Sri krishnaarpanamasthu Suresh B.N. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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