RE: karma and transmigration
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• September 28, 1999
-----Original Message----- From: vchandra [SMTP:vchandra@ambernetworks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 8:40 AM To: bhakti@lists.best.com Subject: karma and transmigration Dear members, My namaskArams. There have been a lot of mails about karma, rebirth, life-cycle etc., in the past few days. In this regard I have a sincere doubt which I humbly request the members to clarify. Sri Krishna Kalale and Sri Chris Bauch have been exchanging ideas about why a jIvA has to take multiple births to become perfect and finally reach parama padham. Here I have a very basic doubt. Our Lord is the cause for birth (bhUtha bhAvanA) and he at the same time IS the only cause for birthlessness (mOksha pradha). And there is a transcendentally profound purpose that The Lord has, to do this. viz., giving birth and taking back and so on for infinite jIvAs. My question is what is this Supreme Purpose? Does the fountain of knowledge, the vEdAs describe it? [Krishna Kalale] The explanation I know is as follows: The supreme purpose of creation cannot be easily answered. There are some theories : lila theory, dristi sristi theory and svabhava vada. lila theory is that it is God's divine play or lila. He is independent but he plays according to some rules and he is not erratic and a tyrranical ruler. Further, the purpose of giving a jiva body is clearly to give him an opportunity to get better. God basicially thinks that if he is allowed to live longer in the same surroundings he may do the mistakes over and over again and God wants him transplanted to a different body so that he can correct himself. Hence even offering a body is basically mercy of God. As per this theory it is clear how it deals with the problem of life and death. Life and death is an act of mercy of God as well as God's way of rewarding and punishing the right and wrong respectively. dristi sristi is a universal theory proposed by Advaita. It is same as vivarta vada. It states that life or universe exists because we perceive it. IT is an error in perception that makes this universe of God, beings and matter, visible as is. Otherwise universe does not exist and only atman exists. there is no seer or seen but atman which is the basis. However, birth and death is still explained as in the lila theory because, Advaita accepts a God who is Iswara who is saguna (relatively real) even though ultimately false as saguna. What is true is nirguna atman alone. svabhava vada is roughly same as the scientific theory which states that birth and death and this universe is all natural. One should not ask why because it is nature. One may find evidence for how life lives or originates etc. But one cannot find why things happen the way they happen. Adiyen Krishna Kalale adiyEn, Chandrasekaran.
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