Re: Vibhava lokas
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• September 7, 1999
Sri P. Srinivasan writes: > 1) Does the expansion of dharma-bhuta-jnana mean that the mukta is > omniscient like Bhagavan? Yes, this is what it means. Near the end of the Brahma-Sutras, Badarayana discusses what the nature of the mukta actually is. The conclusion is that the jIva is equal in all respects to Brahman, save the ability to create the universe, confer liberation on others, and be infinite in "svarUpa" or essential nature. The words used in the sUtras is "bhoga-mAtra-sAmyam", and "jagad vyApAra varjam", meaning that in the aspect of enjoyment (which implies omniscience), the jIva is completely equal to Brahman, but in the matter of creation (jagad-vyApAra), the jIva is inherently limited. There are two Upanishad vAkyas here of importance: paramam sAmyam upaiti / [The knower of Brahman] attains the highest similarity to It. tAdRg eva bhavati / [In the state of moksha] the jIva becomes just like [Brahman]. > 2) Why cannot this happen while the jiva is here on earth, by the grace > of Bhagavan? The answer to this question lies in understanding what it means for us to be on this earth, and what the state of liberation entails. SamsAra means bodily existence on earth, because of association with karma. Each one of us is paired with a body so that we can experience and expend our karma. Moksha means the transcendence of all karmas, so much so that a body is completely unnecessary. The jIva, freed from its association with a karma-based body, can return to its rightful place, blissfully and irrevocably in communion with Brahman. The key Vedanta vAkya here is from the Mundaka Upanishad, in the same verse as the first passage quoted above: tadA vidvAn puNya-pApe vidhUya, paramam sAmyam upaiti | Then, [when one's meditation has acquired the vividness of perception], the knower of Brahman, casting aside all merit and demerit, attains the highest similarity to Brahman. There "puNya-pApe vidhUya" (casting aside...) refers to disentanglement from the body, which is merely an expression of such karma. Nothing is left for the jIva but Vaikuntha-prApti, reaching the abode of Brahman. Alvar explains this as "maraNam aanaal vaikundham kodukkum piraan" -- God is that great benefactor who gives Vaikuntham upon death. In short, to answer your question explicitly, if the jIva is here on earth, it is under the sway of karma. When the grace of Bhagavan operates, the jIva is taken to Vaikuntha, the state of moksha, because all karma has been removed. It does not make sense for a jIva to stay here and yet still be liberated. > 3) Does this dharma-bhuta-jnana reveal the jnanaanandaika-nature of > Bhagavan also? In other words, does the mukta directly perceive the > swarupa (essential substantive nature) of Bhagavan (apart from his > rupa)? Yes -- because without perception of these qualities one would hardly recognize God as God. Recall that jnAna and Ananda are two of the five svarUpa-nirUpaka-dharmas, qualities that reveal the essential nature of God. These are unconditional existence (satyam), unconditional consciousness or knowledge (jnAnam), infinitude (anantam), blissfulness (Ananda), and purity (amalatva). These five attributes are to be included in every meditation on God, as these attributes constitute the *definition* of God's nature. In liberation, when one's indirect (paroksha) meditative knowledge gets transformed into direct (aparoksha) perception, these attributes, which had been part of the meditation earlier, are known in complete clarity and are definitely revealed to Brahman. > It is interesting to note that in all the three meanings, the notion of > a physical place is not present. As a clarification, in Ramanuja's original words, "sthAnam" is used when referring to parama-padam. This can mean either a state or a place. I think the word intentionally has a double meaning. emberumaanaar thiruvadgaLE SaraNam, Mani
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