Re: kaNNan piRandhAn! - 2
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• September 2, 1998
Sri : Srimate Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha Para Brahmane Namaha Srimate Sri Lakshmi - Nrusimha Divya PAdukA Sevaka - Srivan Shatagopa Sri NArAyana Yateendra MahAdesikAya Namaha Dear devotees, Namo NArAyanA . pranAmams. On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Sri Sadagopan wrote: > In summary , GaurangA is the Combined form of > Sri KrishNA ( VrajEsvarA ) and Sri RadhA RaaNi( Nappinnai?). adiyen asked Sri U.Ve.VillUr KarunAkaran swAmy about the identity of nappinnai pirAtti & Smt rAdhA . Based on swAmi's response : " Smt rAdhA is certainly not nappinnai pirAtti . They are two different personalities , as evident from the purAnAs. Smt rAdhA is not mentioned in either Srimad BhAgavatham or Vishnu purAnam & the like. In pAdma purAnam , she is mentioned as one of the gopIs & her origin is traced to "GolOkA" (ie. KrishNalokA) , one amongst the lOkAs that are presided by Sriman nArAyaNA through His vibhava avatArams " . There are various lokAs each presided by a vibhava avatAram ie. rAma lOkA , KrishnalOkA etc exists within the material realm. Ardent devotees of such vibhava avatArams will go to such lokAs & enjoy the communion with Sriman nArAyaNA in that particular form. From there , they might adopt either "prapatti" or "bhakti yogA" to ascend to "Parama padam" ie. Sri vaikuNTham , the supreme abode of Sriman nArAyaNA. It is to be noted that those who have crossed the vIrajA river & went into Sri VaikuNTham have already left behind their connection with "prakruti" ie. matter . Basically , as long as connection with prakruti exists , it means that "karmA" is still binding that jIvAtmA. So , in Sri VaikuNTham since the connection with prakruti no longer exists for the jIvATmA, it has got rid of its karmA also. mokshA is the state at which the dharmabhoota jn~Anam of the jIvAtmA is fully expanded & makes it act perfectly according to its svaroopam ie. uninterrupted bhagavad anubhavam & kainkaryam .This is ofcourse possible only at Sri VaikuNTham . The curse to jayA & vijayA were given by maharishIs who were also having connection with material body (ie. karmA in whatsoever amount is still there with those maharishIs ) . These curses etc occurs only due to the connection with prakruti . There is no question of either cursing someone or making someone have connection with prakruti again at Sri vaikuNTham . Everything is made up of the material called "Suddha Sattvam" at Sri VaikuNTham & not even a trace of "prakruti" can be seen out there . The meaning of "mokshA" is completely lost if someone says that a jIvAtmA that has obtained mokshA for now will come in contact with prakruti later , because of its "bad desires" to enjoy "prakruti" instead of serving nArAyaNA . This type of view referred as "fall down" of a jIvAtmA from Sri VaikuNTham to material world is not only a reality ( has no basis from sAstrAs) but also highly illogical for the following reasons : a. mokshA implies that one is going to have _permanent_ bliss due to the bhagavad anubhavam & kainkaryam to the Divya Dampati at Sri VaikuNTham . If the bliss is not permanent , then it is still not "mokshA" . b. Sri VaikuNTham has only Suddha sattvam . There is no "source" for a jIvAtmA to come up with a bad desire viz. to enjoy prakruti instead of serving nArAyaNA . Such a desire can happen _only_ when the jIvAtmA has connection with prakruti. Since there is no trace of prakruti in Sri VaikuNTham ,this is a complete impossibility. Moreover , the dharmabhoota jn~Anam of the mukta jIvAtmA is completely expanded & it is already a sarvaj~nA . Ofcourse , a jIvAtmA from one of the vibhava lOkAs like rAma lOkA , KrishNa lOkA etc can come down to earth & perform either "bhakti" or "prapatti" and obtain moksham. But , those who have already done "prapatti" will proceed directly to Sri VaikuNTham & this is known as "sAyujyA" by which oneness with respect to Sriman nArAyaNA in terms of dharma bhoota jn~Anam , kalyAna gunAs , divine form etc are awarded by Him . nArAyaNA is the only Sriya:pathi & no jIvAtmA is so. He performs creation , maintainance & destruction of material world which a jIvAtmA (muktA/nityasUrI) is not empowered to . These are the differences apart from the inherent differences that is present with respect to the swaroopam. All muktAs & nityasUrIs serve the Divya Dampati in various ways according to their swaroopam . There can't be many Sri vaikuNThams (ultimate abode/spritual abode) for the simple reason that a muktA is sarvaj~nA => he knows the happenings at any place & at any time. The presence of different Spiritual Worlds ie. multiple Sri VaikuNThams has the implication that a muktA in one Sri VaikuNTham doesn't know the happenings in another Sri VaikuNTham . This multiple Sri VaikuNTham theory has this implication because a muktA in one Sri VaikuNTham performs bhagavad anubhavam & kainkaryam _only_ to Sriman nArAyaNA in one of His forms presiding in that Sri VaikuNTham & doesn't relate himself to other forms of Sriman nArAyaNA. Since a muktA is sarvaj~nA, there is no meaning to such division of space. Namo NArAyanA Adiyen Anantha PadmanAbha dAsan Sarvam Sri KrishnArpanamastu
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