Re: Lakshmi
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Anand K Karalapakkam • Mon Aug 31 1998 - 20:22:50 PDT
Sri :
Srimate Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha Para Brahmane Namaha
Srimate Sri Lakshmi - Nrusimha Divya PAdukA Sevaka -
Srivan Shatagopa Sri NArAyana Yateendra MahAdesikAya Namaha
Dear Sri Raghu,Mani & other devotees,
Namo NArAyanA . kindly accept adiyen's pranAmams.
On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Sri Mani Varadarajan wrote:
> Sri Raghu Mudumba wrote:
> > Elders say Lakshmi is Concept and not a figure.
> > Raghu RD
>
> Dear Raghu,
>
> If this were the case, then all problems are solved
> in the philosophical interpretation of Lakshmi and Narayana.
> I may be wrong -- I will have to go check -- but I am pretty
> sure that Vedanta Desika argues against the idea that Lakshmi
> and Narayana are "aspects" or "concepts" of one another.
> The reference here is Desika's catuh-SlokI-bhAshya.
>
> He does not reduce Lakshmi to God perceived in female
> form. For Desika, Narayana is God, and Lakshmi is God's
> "patni" or eternal consort, representing two distinct
> but inseparable realities. Desika quotes the vAkya from
> the purusha-sUkta "hrIS ca te lakshmIS ca patnyau" in
> support of his argument.
>
The "problem" which may be in Sri Mani's mind is that , if there
are two persons (Sri & nArAyaNA) who are the Ultimate Realities ,
equal in every respect, then the "ekatvam" ie. Single Ultimate
Reality" portrayed in the vedAs gets contradicted . Since the theory
or speculation (ie.has no basis from scriptures whatsoever ) that
"Sri" is a mere "concept" etc & not an actual "reality" removes the
above contradiction , it helps one to remove that "problem". Still ,
since this is only a speculation , one cannot be sure of it =>
results in confusion .
Over the last 10 issues of "Sri Nrusimha PriyA" , "Sri" tattvam is
explained in an excellent way by both Srimad AzhagiyaSingar & Sri
Purusai KrishnamAchArya swAmi . The answers to this "confusion" &
other allied confusions are beautifully illustrated with apt pramAnams
by these parama bhAgavathOthamAs .
adiyen would just list the essential points now & by bhagavad sankalpam
in the future would write little elaborately using pramAnams (ofcourse
every inch of it from "Sri Nrusimha PriyA" only ).
Based on "Sri Nrusimha PriyA" :
"pirAtti" is also a "vishesanA" for nArAyaNA ie. perumAL is the sarIrI
& pirAtti is sarIrA for Him. aprudhak siddha viseshanA exists between
the two. Since perumAL is present as visEshyA & pirAtti as His
aprudhak siddha visEshanA , both of them can be referred by a single
word . This resolves all the "confusions" . "ekatvam" is not lost.
But , pirAtti is also Brahman ( Jagad kAranatvam) & belongs to
category of IswarA ie. she is neither a jIvAtmA nor prakruti, but
Controller of all jIvAtmAs & achit . She is also "upAyA" & "upEyA".
for baddha jIvAtmAs .
From the point of view of baddha jIvAtmAs , PerumAL & pirAtti together
constitute "God" , they together act as "upAyA" , they together are
the "upEyA" as well. They together are cause for the world & are both
vibhu . Neverthless , pirAtti is paratantrA with respect to perumAL.
Hope that this helps for now .
Namo NArAyanA
Adiyen
Anantha PadmanAbha dAsan
Sarvam Sri KrishnArpanamastu
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