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S.V.SWAMY • September 25, 2002 


Om Namo Venkatesaya. While I can't immediately give any reference, I too
heard the story about Lord Srinivasa (or Venkateswara) playing a game of
dice with Sri Hatiram Babaji. So Shri Sadagopan's conjecture may or may not
be correct. And the Sthala Puranam also says that if the Lord succeeds in
paying off His debt, the world will come to an end! (pralayam). 

The Mahant or Babaji got the name of Hatiram, since an elephant also
figures in the story (Lord appearing as an elephant?). sorry that I don't
remember the full details. And yes, there is a small temple of Sri Venu
Gopala Swamy maintained by the people of that Sri Hatiramji Mutt on the way
to Papanasanam Tirtham, which I am sure all of you would have visited.

Let us some one on the list will be able to get the full details of this
Sthala Purana.

And yes, Kubera, does mean one who is deformed. He was a great Siva Bhakta
and was treated as a friend by Sri Siva. He was given the lordship over the
northern direction. I read the story sometime ago but can't remember fully.
I can look it up if some one is interested.

Sri Venkatesa Charanau Saranam Prapadye!

Swamy SV

At 18:18 24/09/02 -0000, Shri Sadagopan wrote:
>
>Message: 14
>   Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:36:56 -0400 (EDT)
>   From: Sadagopan 
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Tirumala  main door & game of dice
>
>At 08:46 AM 9/23/02 -0000, you wrote:
>>While entering the main Tirumala temple, one can see some pictures 
>>being depicted on those doors. In one of them, one can see the lord
>>playing a game of dice with a very fat person. 
>>
>>Can someone on this throw some light on this  ? I heard that this was 
>>a saint called Hathiram Baba who originally hailed from the north but 
>>settled down at tirumala after seeing the lord there. 
>>Janaki Raman 
>
>SrI:
>
>Dear SrI Janaki Raaman :
>
>I have not seen this picture on the door. 
>I can venture a guess, which may be on or off the mark.
>According to Sthala PurANam , Lord SrInivAsa borrowed a lot
>of money from KubErA an dis still paying it off !
>
>This fat person could be KubEra , whom the Lord might like
>to engage in the game of dice to settle the debt load !
>KuberA is the Lord of wealth , king of Men and Geni ,
>who dwells in his northern capital of AlakApuri.
>with his Nava nidihis(nine treasures)!
>
>In PurANams , KubErA is depicted as a white dwarf
>with a large body.His name is derived in one tradition
>as the "Ku-bEran" or the ill shaped one because of
>his fatness and dwarfish stature.
>
>V.Sadagopan 
>
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