Re: chitranchiru kaale!!
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• September 20, 2002
Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: Dear BhAgavatas, I agree with Sri Hari Krishnan. If Sri Visu and others want to enjoy this pasuram while considering the divine kutti (small) leg of Sri Krishna, that's a good anubhavam. I am reminded of the oft quoted episode of a bhAgavata singing "mara prabhu:" instead of "amara prabhu:" in Sahasranamam and Him enjoying that. Having said that, however, it is also important to recognize this as a new anubhavam but not in tune with prior interpretations as well as not being gramattically correct. I have already gone through once showing that the un and nee cannot go with the leg (kAl) and that they would go with the true vocative in this pasuram which is Govinda. Also, Azhvars are not in the habit of addressing His divine avayas as kAlE, kaiyE, etc. In this note I will address the new points raised by Sri Visu. 1. The context of early morning is important in a number of ways. The fact dawn is used is not just because it is related to the month of mArgazhi. Chittramcirukale is recited in Srivaishnava households every day of the year - not just mArgazhi. There is a very compelling reason behind this. Neither is the dawn restricted to a single month nor does it simply refer to the physical waking up alone. It refers to the spiritual awakening as well (agak kaN and puRak kaN). Andal's advise is that once you wake up physically and spiritually, do not waste much time after that; seek His lotus feet and surrender immediately. Having walked us through multiple stages her final advice is just that. So, interpreting kAlE as dawn does not restrict it in any way to margazhi month alone. However, that usage does flow with the context of the prior pasurams thus far in Thiruppavai. Regarding the need for reference to His lotus feet in the final pasurams (this is not proven as required), that is taken care of through the use of poRRAmaRai adi pORRum, therefore there is no need to search for it in kAlE. 2. Song #5 (mAyanai) is also an exception as well as #30. Thanks for bringing up this point though - I had not noted this before in the pasurams. However, note even in the pasuram anRivvulagam, a case can be made that it is not necessarily in the vocative. Aside from that, the vocative is used in the first five lines as you mentioned and it is the same in pasuram 29 as well. It happens in the fifth line when she calls Govinda! 3. See above. Govinda is the vocative, so no need to interpret kAlE as the vocative. 4. The use of kAlE instead of kAlai or kAlam has been addressed by vyakhyadars. I will try to get the reference and post it later. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan TCA Venkatesan --- Visu9@aol.com wrote: > 1. First context: The objection was that this /pAcuram > being one sung in the month of /mArkaZi puts its weight > in favor of the interpretation as "early morning". I beg > to differ from this. This /pAcuram is in practice the > last song of /tirup/pAvai. The next piece (# 30) is a > concluding piece identifying the authoress. It is > traditional in our culture to dedicate the lost song to > the lotus feet of the Lord. Compare for example the last > piece of the analogous poem: /tiru/vem/pAvai of Sri > /MaNikka/vAcakar: /pORRI un ponnaTi pORRI, etc. > > Now, being the lost song, it needs an address. This > address is also traditionally the first line. Thus the > interpretation as leg is more in context than the other > interpretation, which would limit the song to be sung > ONLY during the month of /mArkaZi. That would be a pity, > given the enormous weight of the prayer part, where > /ANTAL is emphatic about her services and the services of > her friends and followers being available only to the > Lord [and hence His /aTiyArs]. > > 2. Examining more carefully one sees that the structure > of /tirup/pAvai songs follows a general format: The first > few lines (two to five lines) form a single sentence or > address statement and sing the glory of the Lord. These > lines generally contain an address. The single exception > is /pAcuram No. 22. > > 3. An address generally contains a vocative exclamation. > Thus, in the current song under discussion (/pAcuram > #29), /poR/tAmarai aTI is not in vocative case. > /ciRRaJ/ciRu/kAlE is in vocative case. This was Shri > /maNi's point too. > > 4. If the phrase uses /kAlai and not /kAlE, there would > be no dispute whatsoever. If /kAlE means morning, /ANTAL > would be the first one to have used such an expression > for the morning. -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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