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Re: chitranchiru kaale!!

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Hari Krishnan • September 19, 2002 


I agree with you.  It is not possible by rules of grammar to interpret chitranchiru kaale as 'the feet of the Lord.'  Though there is still scope for the singular to represent a pair (as questioned in another mail - like 'un adi saranE' adi (singular) representing the feet), it is not possible to use the adjective 'chitranchiru' to feet.  Let it me make it very short now for constraints of time.  We know that the words 'paadhi' and 'arai' represent half.  One cannot say 'paadhi mani' for half an hour.  If the adjective is for the feet, it should have been 'chinnam siru kaale' and not 'chitram siru kaale.'

I did not respond earlier because, a devotee has the right to interpret it in his/her own way.  As Kamban would put it, 'piththar sonnavum, pedhayar sonnavum, paththar sonnavum pannap perubavO'.  Going by grammar and context, this 'kaale' means wee hours and nothing other than that.

I know I have not put it in proper words and this is not a complete answer.  If required, I will continue later.  

Sincerely,
Hari Krishnan

[ I really appreciate the replies of Sri Krishnan and Sri Venkatesan
  below. I urge both of you and others to speak up when there are matters
  like this (Tamil grammar, etc.) that you feel that you are reasonably 
  well versed in.  As you know my Tamil is very rudimentary so I cannot
  properly moderate such discussions. It is important for members such
  as yourselves to step in and offer constructive comments. Thanks again,
  -- Mani ]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TCA Venkatesan" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: chitranchiru kaale!!


| Sri:
| Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:
| 
| Dear BhAgavatas,
| 
| I disagree with the notion that "kAlE" refers to the
| leg of Sri Krishna. It goes against a number of things:
| the context of the pasurams thus far, the style of
| Azhvars pasurams, as well as linguistically it does 
| not jive. And finally, it is not in line with our 
| acharyas vyakhyanams on the pasuram.
| 
| adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan
| TCA Venkatesan
| http://www.acharya.org



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