Re: VibhIshaNa saraNAgati
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• October 15, 1998
Srimaan Ramakrishnan wrote: > Aren't we making a big assumption here? We are deciding what is good and > bad for the devotees based on our prejudices. Eg, it has been assumed > that the Lord did not show mercy to Hirnayakasipu, Bali, Ravana and so > on. The problem with this argument is that we are left with no teaching whatsoever. We can no longer make any distinction between the Lord's ability to punish and the Lord's ability to forgive and protect. In any case, the cases of Hiranyakashipu, Ravana, Kakasura, et al, are cited as examples of the Lord punishing someone for misdeeds; and Vibhishana, Kakasura (again), Sabari, et al are cited as examples of His grace. These interpretations are not our inventions but (a) fall out naturally from the stories and (b) are how our acharyas have presented them to us. If everything is an act of mercy, we are essentially speaking in vacuo. Why differentiate at all between the times piraaTTi is present or otherwise? In this discussion, we need to keep in mind the assumptions set forth in the beginning -- that our acharyas have stated that Srimad Ramayanam is the "SaraNAgati veda", and that Vibhishana SaraNAgati is the upanishad of this veda. Another assumption is that our acharyas teach that Sita (piraaTTi) acts as purushakAra, and without her blessing and intercession Rama will perhaps have a tendency to exercise his sovereign right to punish someone for his misdeeds. The final assumption is the truths embodied in Sriman Ramayanam are not so confusing such that we cannot even distinguish between punishment and grace -- there would be no point for the "avatAra" of this divine work, then! aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, Mani
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