Message from Internet
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• October 7, 1996
Dear Fellow Bhakthas of Sudarsana : Sri Rangaswamy was able to extract form his archives a note I sent out on Narasimha-Sudarsana connection last July , a month after I joined the Bhakthi group . Becuase of the interest of new members like Sri M.K. Sudarsan of Bahrain , I am reposting it courtesy , Sri M. Rangaswamy . V.Sadagopan P.S : I will supplement this note with a posting on Sudarsna Kavacham that has additional information on the realtionship between Bhagavans Narasimhan and Sudarsanaazhwaan. My grand father was an accomplished Upasaka of Lord Sudarsana and a great Maantrika . I did not unfortunately get mantropadesam from him. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: INTERNET:RANGASWAMY@plh.af.mil, INTERNET:RANGASWAMY@plh.af.mil TO: V. Sadagopan, 75041,3037 DATE: 10/7/96 10:18 AM RE: Message from Internet Sender: rangaswamy@plh.af.mil Received: from zircon.plh.af.mil (zircon.plh.af.mil [146.153.100.9]) by arl-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id KAA26863; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:15:38 -0400 From:Received: from plh.af.mil by plh.af.mil (PMDF V5.0-5 #15540) id <01IACW8SMPDS9IDBP8@plh.af.mil> for 75041.3037@compuserve.com; Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: To: 75041.3037@compuserve.com Message-id: <01IACW8SPX4I9IDBP8@plh.af.mil> X-VMS-To: SMTP%"75041.3037@compuserve.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: SMTP%"rjm@ulysses.att.com" 13-JUL-1995 16:58:03.92 To: RANGASWAMY CC: Subj: Chakrataazhwar From: rjm@ulysses.att.com Message-Id: <199507132053.NAA01265@sgi.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 16:41:30 EDT To: bhakti@srirangam.esd.sgi.com Subject: Chakrataazhwar >From compuserve.com!75041.3037 Wed Jul 12 21:37:29 EDT 1995 Received: from ddn-gateway.att.com [135.7.1.18] by ulysses; Wed Jul 12 21:37:29 EDT 1995 Received: from att!compuserve.com by ig2.att.att.com id AA01616; Wed, 12 Jul 95 21:38:21 EDT Received: by gw2.att.com; Wed Jul 12 21:38:56 EST 1995 Received: by arl-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id VAA14758; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 21:37:19 -0400 Date: 12 Jul 95 21:31:04 EDT From: "V. Sadagopan" <75041.3037@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:rjm@ulysses.att.com" Subject: Chakrataazhwar Message-Id: <950713013104_75041.3037_GHJ164-1@CompuServe.COM> Status: R Sriram: Here are some points on the Back to back iconography of Narasimha and Sudarsana . Up to the seventh century AD, the narasimha Icons had two hands only.Afterthat Period of Pallavas, the Iconography of Narasimha became complex with his Form having 16 and even 32 hands. The two-in-one icon came into vogue by daring sculptors. Narasimha-Sudarsana and Subrahmanya-Lakshmi Narasimha are two such creations. The latter is a very rare one seen in atemple 30 miles ot the Norht of Bangalore and is known as Ghati Subrahmanya. According to the iconographic traditions, Subrahmanya faces east and Natrasimha faces West. Now , Coming back to Sudarsana -Narasimha vigraha followa the Vighanasa and Pancharatra Agama stipulations on Narasimha Iconography. According to Vaikanasa Agama, Narasimhan has to be worshipped in 4 Places , namely, below the earth, in pillars, on hills and in Sudarsana. Presence of Narasimha inside the Sudarsana wheel is pointed out by Padma Samhita(31 and 257) .Narasimha is considered as residing in the heart of Sudarsana.THe Sudarsana disc(wheel ) itself is recognized as a form of Vishnu (ie) he being present as Chakra rupi. Thus in worshipping Sudarsana chakra, we not only worship Narasimha , but also Vishnu in all other forms. The Puranas(Agni, Narada, Vishnu Dharmottara ) also provide some clues in this matter.Narada purana in particular elaborates on the worship of Narasimha in the Ugra form with 16 arms. Narasimha is presented a shaving the lustre of the deadly fire (Kaalanala). Sudarsana has been recognized as the wheel of time(Kaala) in Mahabharatha . Sudarsana is also the Maha Jyothi of a Mighty Jwaala , similar to the one seen around the head of Jwaala Narasimhan, with his shrine on the upper reaches of the Ahobila Hills. Jwaala Narasimhan is one of the Nava Narasimhas and the tradition has it that it is this form of Narasimhan, who destroyed Hiranyakasipu. We have to piece the fact of Jwaala and the time aspects of that Jwaala , which is represented by Sudharsana, the mighty weapon of the Lord. Some people have also speculated on the Time aspect of the Sudharsana thru its revolving motion (dynamics) and the Space aspects of the Form denoted by Sankam(Panchajanyam) . Here again the revolving mighty flame associated with Sudharsana reminds one of the Kaalagni alluded to earlier. Swami Desikan"s reference in his Shodasaayudha Stotram makes reference to Kaala chakram and Jagat chakram (Time and space) being incorporated in the Lord (CHAKRINA:) , who is of the form of the divine disc(CHAKRA RUPASYA)> Verse 2<. Hope this provides some input for additional reflections, Sadagopan
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