Re: Vishnu in Rig Vedam
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• October 17, 2002
--- In bhakti-list@y..., Shreyas Saranganwrote: > Sri: > Srimate Rangaramanuja Mahadeshikaya Namaha > > Dear Sri Ramananda: > > I'm not sure if your question has been answered yet; > Listed below are some of the relevant hymns from the > Rk-Veda that establish the paratattvam (supremacy) of > Vishnu. > > For a comprehensive discussion, with a translation > of these verses, please refer Chapters 1 and 7 of > Dr S.M. Srinivasa Chari's book, Vaishnavism - Its > Philosophy, Theology and Religious Discipline > (ISBN 81-208-1098-8). [ citations from Rg Veda deleted ] Dear Shreyas and others following this thread, Unfortunately, these Rks do not demonstrate Vishnu's supremacy and the passages in Dr. Chari's Vaishnavism book are not convincing to impartial readers or to scholars belonging to other traditions. The reason I say this is simple: for each Rk cited that purportedly establishes Vishnu as the highest, I can find 10 such hymns from the Rg Veda which use very similar words to praise Varuna, Savitr, or Indra as the highest deity. This, in fact, is the style of the Rg Veda. It is misleading to take a handful of hymns addressed to Vishnu totally out of context in the body of hymns, and use this *alone* to demonstrate the supremacy or otherwise of Vishnu in the pantheon. As you are no doubt aware, Vishnu is praised by name as such in a minute number of Rks, and solely on the basis of the quality of hymns a god like Varuna or Indra are far better candidates for supremacy than Vishnu. This is one of the reasons why the broad Vedantic tradition has made a strong distinction between Veda and Vedanta. It is to the latter that we must turn if we wish to find conclusive, philosophical answers to the questions of First Cause, Supreme Deity, and Supreme Truth. The latter clarifies and provides a means for understanding the former. Without the Vedanta, the hymns of the samhitas appear confusing and contradictory in their philosophy. Here, I have found the approach taken by Bhagavad Ramanuja very interesting and illuminating. Sri Vedanta Desika follows him in large part in his selection of Vedic texts. In the Vedarthasangraha, for example, Bhagavad Ramanuja preeminently uses the Narayana Sukta, Purusha Sukta (uttara anuvAka), and several Upanishads to demonstrate the ultimacy of Narayana. (I hope to write about this in an upcoming message.) He does not even once, in my recollection, take recourse to the Rks commonly collected in the Vishnu Sukta to press his case. I raise the question: why do you think Ramanuja makes this notable omission? Certainly not because he was unaware of them, because no good Vaidika would be ignorant of the Rg Veda. It also cannot be because he found them lacking in meaning, because he cites a few of them in other contexts. To rephrase: if Vishnu paratva were so easily established based on these Rg Vedic hymns, why did Ramanuja turn elsewhere? -- adiyen ramanuja dasan, Mani -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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