Re: Caste difference in Sr Vaishnavas
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• October 10, 2000
Respected Bhagavatas, I also had a similar experience a few years ago in Mysore. A classmate of mine who is not a brahmin by birth wanted to know more about our Srivaishnavism and is really a great devotee. I took him to our Parakala matam.Luckily at that time there was some function going on.We were really very happy.We both removed our shirts and tied a dhoti and were standing humbly watching all the worships.My friend was really happy and made a really big cash offerring.When everything was over we came to know that food is being served there.So myself and my friend sat in the corridor along with so many other people.After a long time one person supposed to be full time in the matam came along distributing the 'Yelai' (Leaf) for food.When he came near us he saw my friend (without a yagnopaveetam) and asked him to go out and wait for a seperate serving.He told this in such a commanding voice as though we were all beggars eagerly waiting for food.(Please excuse my language but I cannot say but truth).My friend silently got up and went out and I too followed him.He was really great because he was not at all disturbed by this treatment.But I was boiling with anger. I took him to my house and we both had prasad there. Right from my childhood I have seen things like this happening in Parakala matam.At the time of tadiyaradhanam the so called brahmins by birth will be fighting among eachother to find a place to sit in the hall adjacent to madapalli.And outside in the corridor the fulltimers in the Mutt will be engaged in sending out the Non-brahmins or they will be making them sit in seperate areas. Actually Parakala matam has a lot of Non-brahmin followers and during special occassions one can see so many of them comming over filled with great bhakti.They usally make large donations but will be treated like animals by the pseudo brahmanas. Are We really Brahmanas? I will write more about Real Brahmanya later. In the service of SriHari Suresh --- In bhakti-list@egroups.com, "Bala Sundaram"wrote: > Respected Swamis: > > This is in reference to certain postings on October 7. > > Is there a caste difference among the devotees of Sriman Narayana following > Sri Ramanuja's teachings? > > What is the difference between Sri Vaishnavas and Bhagavathas? > > Is there a need still after Sri Ramanuja to integrate all varnas (castes > also) into one ghosti? > > Sometime ago I persuaded a friend of mine, who does not belong to the > Brahmin community, but a devotee of Sriman Narayana to undergo the > Samashryanam cremony with a famous Mutt head. He was administered the rite > separately after all the Brahmins devotess were finished with. There were > also some more differences, including the Mantra upadesam. My friend asked > for the reasons for the different procedure, which I could not explain. Are > there different procedures in this sacred ceremony between those belonging > to brahmin caste and others? > > Adiyen > > D Balasundaram Ramanujadasan > ______________________________________________________________________ ___ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Search archives at http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/index.html#SEARCH
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