Re: Free spirit and respect
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• November 25, 1997
Hopefully this shall be my last post on this subject. The intention is to clarify, not to prolong. First, my protestation was strictly about the phrases that were used in the course of debate. It really does not matter all that much to me whether the Azhvaars are Nithyasoorees or not. The respect and adoration of the aazhvaars is no less in either POV. Sri Jagan presented Sri Srivatsangachar's view thus: "He told me that in the Vadagalai tradition, Swami Desikan made it very clear that the Azhwars are incarnations of the Shankhu etc and are Nitya Suris. He also mentioned that in the Tengalai tradition the Azhwars are considered baddha jivatmas who got moksham at the end of that life." Sri Mani expressed surprise and wished to discuss with Sri Srivatsangachar personally. But later after doing more research he added: [1] ... Swami Desika's intention in quoting this particular sloka while discussing the advent of the Alvars should be apparent to the discerning reader. [2] ... This conclusion, in my opinion, is the easy way out, since it requires little intellectual effort and research. [3] ... it wiser to use their writings as a basis and come to a common agreement as to what makes sense, rather than dogmatically sticking to what one things are "Thengalai" or "Vadagalai." [4] ... It seems that our acharyas wrote and thought with more subtlety and touching humanity than we sometimes give them credit. Even though I am confident that Sri Mani did not mean any disrespect to Sri Srivatsangachar, it was equally clear to me that the implications of the above flow to Sri Srivatsangachar as well. The implications being, [1] = not a discerning reader, [2] intellectually lazy, [3] = dogmatic, and [4] = not recognizing subtleties. Perhaps it is my ego that makes me see all these. But, in as much as Sri Jagan was only acting as a "postman", simply conveying to us what Sri Srivatsangachar had told him, the above implications do not stop with Jagan, but reach Sri Srivatsangachar as well. I agree with Sri Vijay Triplicane's recent post about personal comparisons. It pains me to see respected scholars taken lightly. It pains me equally to see Sri Srivatsangachar's views characterized, even unintentionally, as in [1] to [4] above. I am not advocating unanimity of views. But when we disagree why can't we put some effort to make sure that we don't characterize the other side as dogmatic, intellectually lazy, etc. It is far better to be intentionally respectful than unintentionally disrespectful. Sri Mani is a good friend and we often have long phone conversations. I think it is safe to say that our disagreements are easily dwarfed by the points on which we agree. I seek the forbearance and forgiveness of everyone in this group, particularly of Sri Mani, for any and all of my aparadhams. -- adiyEn
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