RE: kamba rAmAyanam
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• November 15, 2002
> -----Original Message----- > From: Shreekrishna Akilesh [mailto:sakilesh@artsci.wustl.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:04 AM > About anya devatas, is their worship forbidden in the Sri > Vaishnava tradition? I am curious as to why Sri Maha Vishnu > himself worships Siva on two specific occasions. If any ones > can explain these to me, I would be grateful... Dear Shreekrishna, Though this reply does not answer the two instances you have quoted, it is a generic reply to question of Vishnu or his avataras worshipping Shiva (or any other deity for that matter). I am pasting a part of my mail I had posted on the dvaita list: http://www.dvaita.org/list/list_44/msg00112.html (uid/pwd = dvaita/dvaita). **** Reference: Shanti Parva of Mahabharata. Verses 12.328.5 onwards. In this dialogue between Lord Krishna and Arjuna, the Lord is the speaker. The translation is not rigorous. .... brAhme rAtrikShaye prApte tasya hyamitatejasaH prasAdAtprAdurabhavatpadmaM padmanibhekShaNa tatra brahmA samabhavatsa tasyaiva prasAdajaH In the Brahma muhurta, at the end of the night, due to the mercy of the extremely brilliant Lord, a lotus emerged from His navel and in that lotus, Brahma was born, ofcourse, due to His grace. ahnaH kShaye lalAtAchcha suto devasya vai tathA krodhAviShTasya sa~njaGYe rudraH saMhAra kArakaH etau dvau vibudhashreShThau prasAdakrodhajau smR^itau At the end of the day, the Lord [present as antaryAmi of Brahma *] created Rudra out of Krodha-guNa, to enable him to be the 'samhAra-kartA'. Thus, these two 'fine-among-wise', Brahma and Rudra, are known to have been born out of grace and anger respectively. * This interpretation is necessary because in the later sections of Moxadharma, Brahma addresses Rudra as a son. tadAdeshita panthAnau sR^iShTi saMhAra kArakau nimittamAtraM tAvatra sarvaprAni varapradau Thus, they carry out the instructed tasks of creation and destruction. However, they, the givers of boons to all the creatures, are just the agents. kapardI jatilo mundaH shmashAnagR^ihasevakaH ugravratadharo rudro yogI tripuradAruNaH dakShakratuharashchaiva bhaga netraharastathA [Rudra has] braided hair with knot of an ascetic and rest of the head bald. He dwells in the home of graveyard, steadfast on vigorous penance as a yogi. He is ferocious to tripurasuras, destroyed daxayaj~na and took away the eyes of Bhaga. nArAyaNAtmako GYeyaH pANDaveya yuge yuge O Arjuna, know that in every yuga, Rudra is 'nArAyaNAtmaka'. This phrase can mean: one whose indweller is Narayana, one who is always immersed in Narayana. tasminhi pUjyamAne vai devadeve maheshvare sampUjito bhavetpArtha devo nArAyaNaH prabhuH It is the Lord, the prabhu, the Narayana *IN* Maheshvara (the worshippable, the lord of the devas), who is actually worshipped. ahamAtmA hi lokAnAM vishvAnAM pANDunandana tasmAdAtmAnamevAgre rudraM sampUjayAmyaham yadyahaM nArchayeyaM vai IshAnaM varadaM shivam AtmAnaM nArchayetkashchiditi me bhAvitaM manaH O Son of Pandu, I am, indeed, the Atma, the indweller of this universe and the worlds. Therefore, I worship myself first, even when I worship Rudra. If I did not worship Rudra, the bestower of boons, in such a way (i.e., worshipping the indwelling Lord first), some would not worship me, the indwelling Lord, at all - this is my opinion. mayA pramANaM hi kR^itaM lokaH samanuvartate pramAnAni hi pUjyAni tatastaM pUjayAmyaham Whatever I follow and give due worth as a pramANa, the world follows that. Such pramANAs have to be duly followed; therefore I follow them. yastaM vetti sa mAM vetti yo.anu taM sa hi mAm anu rudro nArAyaNashchaiva sattvamekaM dvidhAkR^itam loke charati kaunteya vyakti sthaM sarvakarmasu Whoever knows him, knows Me. Whoever follows him, follows me. (Though) the world, in all its actions, worships two Gods Rudra and Narayana, it is actually One only who is worshipped. na hi me kenachid deyo varaH pANDavanandana iti sa~ncintya manasA purANaM vishvamIshvaram putrArthaM ArAdhitavAn AtmAnaM aham AtmanA O Son of Pandu, there is, of course, nobody who can grant me boons. Knowing that well, I worhip myself, Who am the beginningless and universal power, known as Sarveshvara, for the sake of getting sons. na hi viShNuH pranamati kasmai chidvibudhAya tu R^ita AtmAnameveti tato rudraM bhajAmyaham Indeed Vishnu does not bow to any one and [even when He bows to Himself], for what sake, but for the sake of showing the path to the wise. Therefore, it is the truth that I worship myself even when I worship Rudra. **** I recently noticed that the lines, "tadAdeshita panthAnau sR^iShTi saMhAra kArakau .." have been quoted in Vedarthasangraha while proving Vishnu's sarvottamatva: ... iti antarAtmatayAvasthita nArAyaNadarshitapathau brahmarudrau shR^iShTisaMhArakAryakarAvityarthaH | Btw, Vedarthasangraha is available online at: http://homepage3.nifty.com/ajunamar/e-texts/e-texts_eng.html What is the difference in contents of Vedarthasangraha and Vedaantasaara? Regards, Krishna -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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