Re: Non-Brahmin origin of some Iyengars?
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• November 13, 2001
srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha srImadh varavara munayE namaha Dear Sri Shastri, First of all who said that Swamy emberumAnAr converted non-brahmins into brahmins. No where there is proof to substantiate this claim. The fact is only that he converted many to Sri Vaishnavites. As known to everybody, not all the Sri Vaishnavites are brahmins. As you have stated yourself, it is only a belief, long held by some people of a particular sect to degrade the Sri Vaishnavites of the other sect. There is no historic evidence for this. Also all the sAthAdha mudalis of temples like Srirangam, remain to date as sAthAdha mudalis. Nobody was taken into the brahmin fold. Srirangam SthalathArs in this list can verify this very much. Regarding the lesser importance given by the Thenkalais towards sanskrit, the reason is different. They just follow their AchAryA, the Sri Vaishnava sArvabhouman, swAmi maNavALa mAmuni, who inturn was instructed by his illustrious achArya , Sri ThiruvAzimozhip piLLai, to uplift the drAvida vEdham "Divya prabhandham", out of the fear that not many are following it. Even in this case, he instructed swAmi maNavALa mAmuni to do the kAlakshEpam of Sri Bhashyam and other sanskrit related krithis, for a period of one year (only to prove that he is Ubhaya vEdhAnthAchAriar) and then continue with only the tamizh prabhandams. Nevertheless, these tamizh prabhandhams are the ones, which made swAmi maNavALa mAmuni attain the post and pride which not even, swAmi emberumAnAr could receive. Being "jagadhAchAryan". YES HE IS THE ACHARYA SARVABHOUMAN, as he is the AchAryA for emberumAn Himself. It is a well know fact to every body in the world that it is only after hearing to swAmi maNavALa mAmuni's upanyAsam on thiruvAimozhi, based on eedu muppatthARAyirap padi and others, the Supreme godhead Sriman Narayanan in the form of Sri Ranganathan, the emberumAn of the No.1 divya desam in this bhoolOkam, acclaimed him as His AchArya and gave, the famous thaniyAn "srIsailEsa dayA pAtram..." to this world. He not only gave it to the world, but also made the entire world recite that thaniyan in each and every divya dEsam, before any aruLicheyal ghOshti, by appearing in the dreams of all the archakas of all the divya desams and ordering them to do so. As the recitation of Sanskrit krithis start with "Hari: Om", the thamizh krithis start todate with "Sri sailEsa dayA pAthram". Now it is no wonder the Thenkalais give more importance to the tamizh prabhandams, which made the anthimAchArya in the AchArya lineage, the AchArya of emberumAn himself. Hope, it is now clear that the thenkalais not giving importance to sanskrit works is not related to, the long held TOTALLY WRONG belief that most of them are converted from non-brahmins. Finally, on the whole, there is no proof that Sri rAmAnuja did any caste conversions, though he respected all Sri Vaishnavites for just being a Sri Vaishnavite and not by caste. The proof of this can be had from the fact that Sri Thirukkacchi Nambi, who actually belong to vaishya caste, was one of the proud AchAryAs of emberumAnAr himself and every guruparamparai talks about this. This is more based on the pAsuram in thiruvAimozhi "kulam thAngu sAdigaL nAlilum keezh izhindu, etthanai nalamthAnilAdha saNdALa saNdALargaLAgilum, valam thAngu sakkarathaNNal maNivaNNarkkALenRu uL kalandhAr, adiyAr, tham adiyAr, em adigaLE" ( swAmy nammAzhwAr here states that he is a slave of even those who are born in the most worst caste, which does not even fall within the varNas, if they are all slaves of Sriman Narayanan). AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh (Embedded image moved to file: pic31101.pcx) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The information contained in this message is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressed individual or entity indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person). It must not be read, copied, disclosed, distributed or used by any person other than the addressee. Unauthorised use, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Opinions, conclusions and other information on this message that do not relate to the official business of any of the constituent companies of the SANMAR GROUP shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the Group. If you have received this message in error, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by e-mail. Thank you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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