Re: [advaita and vishistadvaita]
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• November 3, 2000
Sri Hari and Sri B.N. Suresh have very nicely given detailed answers to this question. But I feel one point remains to be clarified: Sri Hari wrote: > In advaita, there is no scope to realize that "god is within jeevatma" > because there is actually no God in advaita. In advaita, the God, jIvAthma > and matter are all unreal. Broadly speaking, there are three levels of reality in Advaita -- (a) that which is unreal, or logically impossible, such as a flower growing in the sky (b) that which is false, or only apparently real, such as a rope being mistaken for a serpent (c) that which is truly real, such as Brahman In Advaita, God and the world are not "unreal", in the sense of being logically impossible. In the final analysis, God, the world, and individuality are "false" (mithyA), because they are caused by illusion, which is superimposed on a real substrate. In other words, God has reality as His basis, but is not ultimately real. The idea of an individualized God is ultimately transcended once Brahman consciousness sets in. For Advaita, in the phenomenal world, God does exist from a practical, conventional standpoint. But ultimately, according to Sri Sankara, 'brahma satyam, jagan mithyA; jiva brahmaiva na paraH' -- Brahman alone is true, the universe is false. The individual self is absolutely identical with Brahman and is nothing different. In the process of meditation, therefore, Advaita accepts God as the purest example of Brahman in the conventional world. Meditation, worship, etc., of God all exist as long as one perceives the conventional world as existing. Therefore, just as in Visishtadvaita, there definitely is scope to realize that "God is within jIvAtmA" in the same way as Visishtadvaita. Advaita even posits a blissful state of communion with God such as Sri Vaikuntha. The only difference is that in Advaita ultimately this state itself is transcended as the consciousness of the non-dual Brahman sets in, and all perceptions of duality cease, including the very notion of "I". Visishtadvaita, being a realist philosophy, takes a very different view ontologically. This idea of Brahman comprehends the concepts of matter and individual selves within itself, without denying their reality. These two categories are eternal concepts maintained by the will (sankalpa) of Brahman, who lends them reality by being their Innermost Self. Ceaseless, loving, meditation on Brahman as being the Innermost Self of all that exists, including the jIva, is the knowledge that leads to moksha. Such moksha consists of blissful communion with Brahman, the Highest Self, which Itself consists of eternal bliss. In Visishtadvaita the "I-ness" of the jIva is never totally lost. What is transcended is any limitation due to karma. Karma is the very basis of bondage and inappropriate understanding of the nature of the world. As one transcends karma thanks to purifying meditation and the grace of Brahman, everything is placed in proper perspective, and all sorrows fall away, leading to the eternal, blissful perception (sAkshAtkAra) of the Absolute God. aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mani -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Search archives at http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/index.html#SEARCH
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