Re: Discussion of jeans
From the Bhakti List Archives
• May 20, 1999
Dear esteemed members of Bhakti List, Namo Narayana! Please accept adiyen's pranaams. My name is Vasudevan (Wajdi to non-Vaishnavas) and I have been a long time observer on this list. I have learned a great deal about our sampradayam here and wish to thank each and every member for the much appreciated (and needed) information he or she contributes. I do not write to the list often because I fear I have much too much yet to learn to be taking stands on issues that I do not know enough about. I am sure that this is one of those times. However, I felt compelled to write because of what I perceived to be a negative shift in the overall mood of the list in past days over the issue of veshti vs. "jeans." I am sure that most members of the list can tell that my name(Wajdi) is not Indian. In fact, I am a Lebanese(Arab)-American convert to this most wonderful and glorious Shri sampradayam ( I was recently honoured to take samashrayanam under HH 45 Jeeyar of Ahobila Muttam via Shri Venkat Swamy in New York). Truly I am blessed beyond words. My interest in this newest debate is related to my background as a non-Indian. I would like to begin by saying, therefore, that my email might be perceived as being irrelevant to this particular discussion because I do not know to what extent it was to be applied to both Indian and non-Indian Shri Vaishnavas. I have taken it to be aimed at all of us so I request the esteemed members to please forgive me if I have misunderstood. As a Shri Vaishnava, I feel that it is mandatory to wear Thiruman/Shri choornam whenever possible. This is above and beyond all other issues of appearance and ethnic/cultural division. For me, it comes not out of a feeling of obligation, but out of a desire to please Perumal and announce to the world that I belong to Him. I believe that this issue is separate from clothing issues simply because thiruman and Shri choornam are symbols of our relationship with Perumal - unlike the veshti which (while it can take on religious meaning in the proper context) is worn not only by Vaishnavas but by Shaivas/Smartas/and even Christians! That being said, when I attend the temple I try to always wear veshti/angavasthram as is proscribed by our Acharyas as well as in shastras. However, again, I do this because of my personal (and selfish?) desire to make Perumal happy. It is my fear that forcing everyone to wear veshti/saree to the temple will alienate some very sincere and highly devoted people who, for their own reasons, find it impossible. I personally do not think that allowing leniency in this area leads to leniency in all other areas of regulation or to the general downfall of religious principles in Shri Vaishnavam. Of course, I am only concluding that from personal experiences. Actually, I have found that whether wearing veshti or not, there are sadly much too many undereducated Shri Vaishnavas (myself definitely included) who cannot even properly articulate the basics of our sampradayam. I hope that more emphasis can be placed on the education of our community and less emphasis placed on these tangential issues. I have known several Ayyangars who do devoted anya-devata worship and have no idea that according to their own sampradaya that it is a sin. While it is easy to see someone's hope for all Shri Vaishnavas to measure up to a certain outward standard, I cannot help but think that there are other issues such as that of anya-devata worship and lack of people performing prappathi that are much more pressing and vital to the very existence of our faith. As Shri Sudarshan was saying in his message, many Arabs take pride in wearing dishdasha and abaaya. However, I think that it is important to note that many many Arabs do not wear dishdasha or abaaya and are still very much tied to Arab culture. In fact, as Lebanese, the dishdasha is not a part of our culture at all. As long as the fundamentals of conservative dressing are maintained, the majority of Lebanese (and indeed most modern Arab) men and women see no difference in what they wear to the mosque. My point is that while we are all Arabs and all proud of being Arab, our manner of dress is incredibly diverse (and only in specific cases such as the ladies' hijab tied at all to religion). To me, then, the issue of clothing takes on notably cultural (as opposed to religious) characteristics. It is not in Lebanese culture to wear dishdasha while it is in Baharaini culture. Clearly, no matter what they wear, the Muslims from both countries remain Muslims. For that matter, Christian Arabs in certain parts of the Middle East also wear the dishdasha. I think that Indians, on whole, would be greatly aided by fostering pride in wearing saree and veshti but I do not think that forcing someone to wear them will achieve the desired goal. Education -as Shri Sudarshan pointed out- seems to be the key. If younger Indians are taught to see the importance and relevance of wearing traditional clothes, then they will be less likely to blindly shun them as relics of the past. Whether or not they will maintain devotion to Sriman Narayana is a different matter. Thank those of you who got this far for taking the time to read this quite long-winded message. I am sure that I have inadvertently committed many sins and I ask for pardon if I have committed any bhagavatha-apacharam. It was only my intention to express my opinion on these matters and not to inflame or create any controversy. adiyen Vasudeva Ramanuja dasan
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