Re: Doubt
From the Bhakti List Archives
• May 13, 1998
From: Mani Varadarajan>Sincerity is always appreciated, nay requested, of >Bhakti list members. However, I request correspondents >to refrain from condescending, abusive tones such as >the following: > >> [the mood with which Chinmaya Mission members say "hari om"] >> is nonetheless an annoyance for those of us who know better. > >While we may often fall short of the ideal, the Bhakti >list is intended to be a polite group. Hare Krishna. My apologies. Perhaps I should say that such chanting is actually "differently appreciated." :-) Anyway, the original question by R. Dinakaran was, why should "Hari Om" not be said aloud or written? Since this phrase is found in many Upanishads, it obviously must not be a scriptural directive. Hence, my point is that since Vaishnavas generally regard such chanting by mayavadis as offensive, this might explain why some of them discourage or forbid such chanting. Why they regard such chanting as offensive might seem hard to understand. After all, don't Vaishnavas always appreciate the chanting of the Holy Names? An example of this is seen in the Sixth skandha of the Bhaagavatam, wherein the Yama-duttas, after having failed to capture Ajaamila from the Vishnu-duttas, complained to their master Yamaraaja that Ajaamila simply chanted "Narayana" and thus they (the Yama-duttas) were defeated. Yamaraaja, upon hearing his servants chant the Holy Name of the Lord (while recollecting what had happened to them), was very pleased and thus instructed his servants on how Lord Vishnu is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The point here is that great devotees, even when hearing accidental chanting of the Lord's names from nondevotees, are very pleased. Yet there is a world of difference between the chanting of an innocent person and that of an offensive person. While both get transcendental benefit, they are not received by devotees in the same way. The Yama-duttas were simply fallen and ignorant, and thus they were basically innocent. On the other hand, mayavadis will chant the Lord's names while actively asserting that His names and form are made out of maya. They will assert that the archa-vigraha of the Lord (as well as any other conceptions of the Supreme Brahman having form) are merely means to an end, to be discarded when one has reached some higher understanding. Thus, to them, Lord Vishnu and the chanting of His names are simply a diversion for those whose intelligence is less developed. In particular, the preference of some mayavadis to chant "Hari Om" is pretty easy to understand. "Om" to them brings up their conception of the formless, nameless Brahman which is superior to all "saguNa" conceptions of Brahman (such as Vishnu). The Chinmayananda people will probably say that "Hari Om" somehow symbolizes the idea that one approaches God with a personalist conception and later abandons it in favor of the "superior," impersonal conception. This of course fits in well with their philosophy which holds that the forms of Lakshmi and Vishnu are simply very elaborate symbols that symbolize the gradual path to liberation. Of course, if your "heart is better developed than your brain," as their leader once put it, you can worship such "symbols," but this will only lead you to the understanding that that's all they are. So it's not hard to understand why some Vaishnavas might forbid the chanting of holy names that are preferentially used by mayavadis. Personally, I have mixed feelings about this. Although I can understand why one might regard as offensive a nondevotee who chants "Hari Om" and similar phrases with an impersonal understanding, to instruct others not to chant them also seems to imply that that the Holy Names of the Lord can somehow be tainted by such an act. Obviously, this can not be the case since the Lord, His Name, His qualities, forms, and pastimes are always transcendental to the three modes of material nature (the guNa-s). Then again, I suppose there are propriety issues at stake; similar concerns are no doubt the basis of directives to the effect that one should not even visit temples of demigods (even though some of these demigods are very exalted devotees). yours, -- HKS
- Next message: Madhavakkannan V: "Thiruvaaimozhi 6.3- Ponnappan, MaNiappan, Mutthappam, thanoppaarilappan"
- Previous message: Krishna Susarla: "Re: Raamaayana question"
- Maybe in reply to: R. Dinakaran: "Doubt"
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ]