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Re: The why of creation.

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snk110 • Fri May 03 2002 - 18:29:36 PDT 


Dear members,
   i don't remember the verse, but i remember reading somewhere in 
the bhagavatham that the Supreme Lord engages in creation as a 
sport/recreation for Him.Also, the Supreme Lord being very 
considerate , gives opportunity to jivas in Vaikuntha planets who 
have developed dvesha/hatred or a sense of independence from Him to 
lord over something(the material creation will give the jiva of a 
false sense of independence).But, when this dvesha arises cannot be 
known because there is no time in spiritual world.

Please correct my understanding if i am wrong.
In your service
K.N.Sriram

[ In the opinion of the Upanishads and Brahma-Sutras as
  understood by most commentators including Sri Ramanuja,
  there can be no return from Vaikuntha.  The Brahma-Sutra
  concludes emphatically, "There is no return, on account
  of the declaration in the Veda; there is no return,
  on account of the declaration in the Veda." (anAvRttiH
  SabdAt; anAvRttiH SabdAt).  Furthermore, Vaikuntha is
  by definition a place where ignorance and limitation of
  consciousness have absolutely no reign.  Therefore, there
  is no question of a jIva developing hatred or a sense of
  independence from the Supreme Brahman.

  Sri Ramanuja is even more explicit in his comments on this
  sUtra. Not only will the jIva not return on his own accord, 
  but neither will the Highest Person, having finally obtained
  the jIva for which He had been thirsting for so long, send
  the jIva out of His realm (na ca ... paramapurushaH ... 
  atyartham jnAninam labdhvA, na kadAcid api AvartayiSyati).

  Theories which posit a "return" or "fall" from Vaikuntha
  are at variance with the Vedanta and the Vedantic tradition
  as a whole. -- Moderator ]


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