Re: The Why of Creation
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• May 3, 2002
Dear sri M. K Krishnaswamy, I am really impressed by your postings. Long time back you wrote on the "Ramana maharshi" - underwater creature episode. It was fantastic and I have found beautiful verses from the bhagawadgita which echo the same thought: for example: anishtam istam mishram ca trividham karmanah phalam bhavati atyaginam pretya na tu samnyasinam kwachit - " the desirable, undesirable and mixed effects occur to the ones who have not renounced, but not to the samnyasis". similarly your thoughts on creation are very appropriate. I remembered that long time back I had prepared for a lecture on vedas, which I delivered in denver, colorado nama conference (honestly I tried to learn something while preparing for the lectures, but, even after lecturing, I dont know anything!). However, I like to bring to your attention some shlokas of svetasvetara which echo the same thoughts as yours: the vedas ask from where all these come forth? : yato va imani bhutani jayante…. • Brahma Vadino vadanti: kim karanam brahma; kutah sma jatah jivama kena kvacha sampratistah; adhistitah kena sukhetareshu vartamahe brahma vido vyavastham - What form is brahman? what is the cause of this universe? on account of which are we born and by which do we live? Being presided over by what do we function in acts of joy and sorrow in a specific way? Svetasvetara : cont’d • kalah svabhavah niyatir yadriccha bhutani yonih purusha iti chintyam; samyoga esham na tvatma bhavat; atmapyanishah sukha duhka hetoh • time, nature, fate, chance, the five elements, prakrithi, purusha- any one of these cannot be the cause of universe. A combination of these cannot be due to Atman which does not change (parinama). Even Atman is not independent, since he is subjected to happiness and sorrow. Svetasvetara : cont’d ******************** see this verse below ************ • te dhyana yoganu gatha apasyan devatma saktim svagunair virudam; yah karanani nikhilani tani kalatma yuktani adhitistatyekah. ( well sung by MS Subbalakshmi in her shakti cassette) • following path of meditation they saw the power of lord (ie prakriti with its qualities) and the Lord who alone presides over all those causes comprising of kala and atman • next verse: they also saw this mighty wheel ever rotating: each being either heading towards devayana, pitruyana or kshudra jantu bhavana ( ie. souls getting creature bodies) • next verse: they saw the river of prakriti flowing : guna pravriddha vishaya pravalah - gita Svetasvetara : cont’d • sarvajive sarva samsthe brihante tasmin hamso bhramyate brahma chakre; prithak atmanam preritaram cha matva justah tatastena amritatvam eti • Jiva transmigrates in this great wheel of Brahman, which makes all beings live, and be subjected to dissolution. Knowing that the prompter and himself as different, and becoming an object of love of that paramatman by knowing him, jiva attains immortality. Svetasvetara cont’d • samyuktam etat ksharam aksharam ca • vyaktavyaktam bharate vishvam isah • anishascha atma badhyate bhoktrbhavat • jnatva devam muchyate sarva pashaih • the mutable and immutable are close together. The lord supports these two. Atman is not the master and is bound due to desire for enjoyment. He gets freed from all kinds of bondage after knowing the Lord. • parallel : dvavimau purshou loke - daivi hyesha - in gita • meditation on him ( Lord Krishna) gets release svetasvetara cont’d • tileshu tailam dadhaniva sarpih apah srotasvaraneeshu chagnih • evam atma atmani gruhyate satyena enam tapasa yo’nu pashyati • As oil in the sesamum, ghee in curds, water in the ground and fire in the churning firewoods; so is this paramatman grasped in atman by the one who follows the means of satya ( truth) tapas (penance). Upanisads cont’d • sarva vyapinam atmanam kshire sarpirivavritam atmavidya tapo mulam tat brahmopanisat param tat brahmopanisat param • ***********The supreme atman who is all pervading like ghee in milk and who is to be known through the knowledge of the jivatman and through tapas and who is propounded by the upanisats is to be known. That supreme atman is to be known • tameva viditva atimrutyumeti nanyah pantha vidyate ayanaya - svetasvetara • brahmavit apnoti param - taittiriya SUMMARY: Again and again, the Vedas insist that the answer to the riddle of creation, life and transmigration is only obtained by the grace of that lord who should be meditated always sincerely : dhyeyo narayanah sadaa. - a person who does not sincerely seek through a guru may not even understand the value of these truths. dasan Krishna Kashyap -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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