Can Sri Vaishnavas count?
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• March 11, 1996
Iyarpaa containing, among other prabhandams, siRiya and periya thiru madal (STD and PTD) of Thirumangai aazhvaar and whether or not the 108 verses of iraamanusa nooRRandhaadhi (INA) gets counted, results in differences in the total count for the naalaayira Dhivya Prabhandam (DP). Unlike other prabhandams, siRiya and periya thirumadal are not neatly separated into paasurams. Thenkalai sampradaayam treats STD and PTD as just one paasuram each. Thus the count for iyaRpaa is 593 verses. INA is not counted as part of the 4,000 DP. Thus the total count for DP is only 3,776. This must be the most faithful way to count. Note that thenkalayaar do recite INA at temples with great reverence. I had the opportunity to witness this in the thaanaana thirumEni shrine at Sri Rangam. Swami Sri Desikar in his Prabhandasaaram broke STD and PTD into 40 and 78 paasurams respectively. Further, he included INA as part of iyarpaa. Thus, his total count for iyaRpaa is 709, and the total count for DP is even 4,000. Since siRiya and periya thirumadal are quite arbitrarily broken into 40 and 78 in order to force the count to 4000, some consider this counting to be artificial. Why should INA be part of DP? The author is not an aazhvaar and the subject matter is not Lord Sriman Narayana. Well, kaNNinuN siruththaambu praises only SatakOpan and it is included in the DP. Besides, Swami Sri Desikar considers the inclusion of INA more as a tribute to Sri Ramanuja than to Amudhanaar. After all, Sri Ramanuja is as reverential as aazhvaars. So, why not, say the Vadakalais. In prabhanda saaram, Swami Sri Desikar praises each aazhvaar with a listing of their prabhandams and details of their birth etc. For INA, he gives such details for Sri Ramanuja in stead of Amudhanaar. Here is that paasuram: "thEsamelaa mukanthidavE perumpoo thooriR sitthiraiyi laathirainNaaL vanthu thOnRik kaasinimEl vaathiyarai venRa rangar gathiyaaka vaazntharuLu methiraa saamun poosurarkOn Riruvarangath thamutha Nnaarun ponnadimE lanthaathi yaakap pORRip pEsiyanNaR kalitthuRainNooR Rettup paattum pizaiyaRavE yenakkaruLsey pENi neeyE." According to my source Sri Ramanuja who first refused to even look at INA, later acquiesced for it to be recited along with DP. I take this to indicate that INA was accorded equal status with the rest of DP even during Sri Ramanuja's time, or at least immediately after his paasing when there was no then or vada kalai. It is interesting to note that Amudhannar first wanted to compose his verses in praise of his guru, kooraththaazhvaar. But koorathaazhvaar directed Amudhanaar to compose his poems upon Sri Ramanuja. AppiLLai's vaazhi thirun^aamam gives a third count with 70.5 and 140.5 for the two thirumadals resulting in 817 for iyaRpaa. Thus, the total for DP is an even 4,000 without having to count INA. Here again siRiya and periya thirumadal are broken down to force the total count to 4,000. Which ever way we count, the 24 prabhandams, the 4,000 verses, and INA will always remain inspirational for all Sri Vaishnavas. Count for the other three thousands: First thousand : 947 Second thousand (Periya thiumozhi, etc.) : 1134 Fourth thousand (Thiruvaay mozhi) : 1102 -- dhaasan Parthasarati Dileepan
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