aagama and tiruvEngadamudaiyAn idol
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• March 13, 2000
--- Lakshmi Srinivaswrote: > Friends, > > I do not want to enter this debate for want of > adhikaara re aagama etc. Sir, As far as adiyen can see we are not having a "debate" on this matter. We are discussing aagama and tiruvEngadamudaiyAn's idol. Each member is putting forth what he knows, what he has read or whatever he has heard from others about the subject. That's all. One needs no "adhikaara" to discuss... one needs to have the desire to learn from others and form one's own opinion based on what is learnt. That's all. But > I want to point out a reference to those interested > in this subject. > > The History of Tirupati by TKT Viraraghavacharya, > publ by TTD. in 1953, > second edition 1977, reprint 1997. This remarkable 3 > volume work costs > exactly Rs. 77 i.e., less than $2. So the > discussants may want to go thru > this book too. Sir, adiyen has not read the above book. So you may be right if you say many passages from Sri.N.Ramesam's book are extracted from the above book. But it does'nt really matter even if it so, is there? We are all interested really only in the subject-matter... not in Sri.Ramesam's or Sri.TKTV's authorship. > Equally relevant here is his discussion of "Some > Crude and Incorrect> Notions" (section heading in Vol I, p 197) wherein> he traces the history of > some other facets usually pointed out by detractors > of Srinivasa viz., simha> lalaatam, sandal paste, jata etc and points out the> insignificance or lack > of antiquity of many of these facets. Sir, I am not aware of any "crude notions". But personally I find nothing objectionable in reserving one's judgment in the face of facts which are not clear or incontrovertible. In fact I personally find the conclusion (that 'tiruvEngadamudaiyAn's" idol is "svayambhu", pre-dates any aagamA and "is a class by itself") in Sri.Ramesam's book to be quite credible and well-reasoned. Thanks any way for referring adiyen to the TKTV book which I will read some time. > I urge the scholars in this list to go thru this, > digest it and explain it > in simple terms for laymen like me. I think the scholars Sriman-s Anbil, Sadagopan and Mani have already explained what they had in mind. Adiyen is no scholar but if you want adiyen can certainly summarise in a simple, non-technical way the relevant portions from Sri.N.Ramesam's book in a short series of posts. But then Sri.Mani, the list moderator, has to pre-approve "series" postings as per the guidelines of the list. Regards, dAsan, Sampathkumaran __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - SrImate raamaanujaaya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. Install today: http://click.egroups.com/1/2344/2/_/716111/_/953063802/ -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=bhakti-list&m=1
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