Re: aagamA-s
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• March 10, 2000
sampath kumar writes: > Mani, I have done no research whatsoever on this > subject except reading a few articles on it. So I > don't claim any sort of irrefutability in these > matters. Sri Sampath Kumar, To settle this question of the status of the Agamas, we should go to the original sources. Unanimously, all our acharyas as well as acharyas outside our tradition (Sankara, Madhva, et al) have recognized that the Agamas and Vedas are two different bodies of scripture. Let's look at the two types of scripture for a moment. The Vedas are unauthored, eternal, "preterpersonal" texts (apaurusheya). Being eternal, they do not have an origin in time, not even from Brahman (Narayana). This is established in the mImAmsA and is accepted both by the ritualists (pUrva-mImAmsakas) and Vedantins (uttara-mImAmsakas). Only the Veda is known as "Sruti", meaning eternal words that are "heard", not read or written. All Agamas, whether Vaishnava, Saiva, or Sakta, on the other hand, are *authored* texts. Among the Vaishnava Agamas, there are two varieties, the Pancaratra and the Vaikhanasa, the former being prevalent. The Pancaratra is universally known in our tradition as "Bhagavat Sastra", because it is believed by us to have been authored by Bhagavan Narayana Himself. The Vaikhanasa texts are believed to be authored by rishis, beginning with Vikhano Muni. This difference between the two sets of scriptures is taken as axiomatic by the ancient scholars. Let me cite Sri Yamunacharya's statements in his monumental treatise "On the Validity of the Agama" (Agama prAmANyam), the first work establishing the authority of the Pancaratra texts against outside objections. Notice how Yamuna assumes a distinction between the Veda and the Pancaratra Agamas: There should be certainty about the lack of defects of the self-validity of both bodies of texts. In the case of [the Veda] there is certainty because there is no person who authored it, and therefore no possible source for the defect; in the case of [the Pancaratra] there is certainty because the author of the texts [Bhagavan] possesses virtues which preclude all defects. -- Para 112 [ etad uktam bhavati - ubhayor api svataH prAmANyayor ekatra doshAbhAvaniScayaH, tad ASraya-purusha-abhAva- niScayAt, anyatra tad viruddha-guNa-vaktRkatva-niScayAd iti ] In para 82, Yamuna further establishes that the Pancaratra sastra is a perfect text, because it is *created* by Narayana. This is why, in his view, the Agamas and Tantras of other schools are not authoritative. Their authorship rests with imperfect beings such such as Rudra, etc., and they communicate ideas that are at odds with the Vedas. Now, what about the statement that the Agamas have their origin in the Ekayana Sakha of the Yajur Veda? If you read Yamuna's arguments, he says this in reply to people who argue that the Pancaratra Agamas have practices which are *nowhere mentioned* in the Vedas. Yamuna replies that the followers of the Pancaratra simply follow a different branch of the Veda, which indeed contains descriptions of similiar practices. Because the Ekayana Sakha (and indeed other parts of the Veda) were difficult to understand, Bhagavan Narayana condensed it, took the essence, and presented it again as the Pancaratra Agamas: The Omniscient Lord Hari took the essence of the Upanishads and condensed it out of compassion for his devotees, for their convenience. -- Para 89, from Pancaratra Agama quoted by Yamuna [ vedanteshu yathAsAram sangRhya bhagavAn hariH | bhaktAnukampayA vidvAn sancikshepa yathAsukham || ] Ramanuja follows this line of argumentation in brief in the Sribhashya, and as cited earlier, Desika accepts this distinction as well. Sankaracharya would certainly have accepted the Pancaratra entirely if it were part of the Vedic samhita; he would have no choice in doing so, as he is a Vaidika. On the other hand, he finds it possible to reject its authority in his Brahma-Sutra bhashya precisely because it is not *part* of the Vedas, but an outside body of texts. (See comments on Pancaratra-adhikaraNa for both Ramanuja and Sankara). Furthermore, the Pancaratra does not have svara, etc., which characterize any portion of a Vedic samhita. I hope this establishes clearly that while the Pancaratra Agama is *based* on the Vedas (as argued by our acharyas), it is not *part* of the Vedas. adiyen ramanuja dasan, Mani ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - SrImate raamaanujaaya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WANT FREE MAGAZINES? Sample over 500 magazines in 30 categories-- all for FREE at FreeShop.com, your source for thousands of free and trial offers! http://click.egroups.com/1/1610/2/_/716111/_/952718523/ -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/bhakti-list/?m=1
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