Re: human cloning and srimad bhAgavatam
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• March 6, 2000
Hi Can someone post the Original Question agian (Please), coz i have someone who fits the discription as Mr SampathKumar Discribed here,visiting our temple and also i have a sister, who has a Phd under genetics, and also working as a Sr,Scientist specialized under Genetics, and i am sure i can make them sit and certainly put thier brains together, and come up with an answer for the question. !!!! Thanks folks Krishna --- sampath kumarwrote: > Dear friends, > While in Madras recently, adiyen took the > opportunity > to meet with a well-known holy man of orthodox Vedic > tradtion. (It is not necessary to name him here on > the > bhakti-list). Adiyen has the greatest regard for > this > particular 'veda-vith' since he is not only a devout > and uncompromising Vedic practitioner but also a > person with astute knowledge of worldly matters too > ("loukeekam"). > > Adiyen took the liberty to put to the holy man the > same set of questions on "human cloning" that had > been > put out on the bhakti-list a few weeks ago. Adiyen > was > not sure if the holy man would welcome such queer > questions on genetics and religion. But adiyen was > so > surprised when the "veda-vith" not only listened > kindly to all of adiyen's questions with patience > and > understanding but also with a great deal of > youthlike > enthusiasm. > > "My young friend", he said,"I am sure you do not > expect me to provide you with technical answers to > your questions. I am not a geneticist. Neither are > you. I have a bit of Vedic learning having spent > more > than 40 years in Vedic pursuit. You have none. And > yet > you ask questions of such a nature as will require a > respondent to have deep knowledge of not only the > Vedic truth but also of the science of genetics. > > "Both of us have a little knowledge about clones. We > probably picked it all up from newspapers and like > publications. But our knowledge is incomplete. > Because > our knowledge of human cloning is incomplete it > disturbs us deeply. > > "Why? We don't really know. We believe that in some > future world where human clones will co-exist with > normal human beings, there are bound to arise > profound > moral and ethical issues which will further > complicate > the already chaotic human society we live in today. > The advent of human clones makes us extremely > uneasy. > > " You are asking me now: If the human soul can be > said to be 'cloned' then isn't such cloning a bit > like > "srushti" or creation itself? Has Man finally become > God?" > > "I ask you now: if creation of a clone or "srushti" > makes man God, then, by the same token, through > "destruction" (or "sarvanAshanam") also Man may hope > to become God? For, is Destruction not one of the > principal functions of God too? Two atomic bombs > were > dropped in 1945. There was utter destruction in the > world then. Are we to conclude therefore that Man > became God by the utter Destruction wrought in > Hiroshima and Nagasaki? > > "My friend, Man's claim to Godhead is made no > stronger > through human cloning... or "srushti"... than it is > > through the awesome destruction his atomic bombs > wrought... "sarvanAshanam". > > "Human cloning is not unknown to Vedic tradition. > The > ancient 'sruti' has many references to clones. So > what > we call the science of genetics is not entirely > alien > to the Vedic system of thought. An entire chapter in > the 'Srimad Bhagavata purAna' has references to > clones, if only you cared to read it carefully". > > Adiyen then asked the holy man,"Can you please > explain > what is there about human clones in "Srimad > Bhagavatam?". The holy man smiled and said,"Ah, but > that's a long story!". > > "Swami, I'd nonetheless like to hear it", I said. > > "My friend, it's time now to perform our > 'sandhyAvandanam'. So please go now and return > tomorrow if you are still interested in the quaint > "purAnic" stories of the Vedic variety." > > The holy man then dismissed adiyen rather abruptly. > Adiyen suspected he secretly hoped I'd not bother > him > again if asked to go away and return again.Adiyen > firmly decided I'd not oblige him. So I returned to > him the followind day to hear about clones in the > 'Srimad BhAgavatam". > > It's now time for adiyen's 'sandhyAvandanam'. So I > will continue this post tomorrow. > > dAsan, > Sampathkumar > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - aazhvaar, emberumaanaar, desikan, jeeyar > tiruvadigale saranam - > To Post a message, send it to: > bhakti-list@eGroups.com > Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more > information > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Planning a party? iParty.com is your complete source > for party planning and > supplies, with everything you need to throw the > perfect party! > http://click.egroups.com/1/1635/2/_/716111/_/952352932/ > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- > http://www.egroups.com/ChatPage?listName=bhakti-list&m=1 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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