Re: Apaursheyatva of shruti
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• June 17, 1998
Dear VaishNavas, There was a discussion sometime ago about apaursheyatva ("un-authoredness") nature of the shruti. My "understanding" of that discussion is that shruti is accepted by vaidikas (or vedantins) as independent source of pure knowledge not "authored" by anyone including God Himself, because otherwise there would be an endless circularity of "logic" as follows: - Existence of God is valid because shruti says so, and - Shruti is an authoritative source of pure knowledge because God "authored" it If we adopt same line of "reasoning", one might ask the following question: 1.What is the pramaana that shruti is pure factual and authoritative knowledge? Attempting to answer the question could result in a paradox: a. If the pramaana for the validity of the shruti is contained in the shruti itself, then there would be a self-circularity . (in other words, shruti would have to be accepted as authority because shruti itself says so) b. If the pramaana for the validity of the shruti is *not* contained in the shruti, then the pramaana would not be authoritative. c. If the pramaana for the validity of the shruti is contained in smrti text like the Bhagavad Gita authored by God Himself, then we have the mutual circularity mentioned in previous discussions. [ I have vague memory of some kind of "paradox" like the above, mentioned in mathematical set theory: It goes something as below: Let "S" be the universal set whose members are sets that do not contain themselves as members. Then can "S" contain itself as a member ? - if "S" does contain itself as member, then "S" contradicts its definition. - on the otherhand, if "S" does not contain itself as a member, then there is contradiction too ! ] Where is the fallacy ? Is the question (1) itself invalid & absurd ? (since the authority of the shruti is a basic axiom and shruti's authenticity must be accepted without requiring pramaanam.) Obviously, mundane reasoning by a condition soul in impure consciousnes would not help understand reality. So i request vaishNavas to kindly bear with my mental concoctions ? - Ram
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