Re: neo-Sadhus
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• June 29, 2001
Dear Pradeep: You are raising a very important question the answer to which will save one from chasing the wrong Gurus and wasting one's time and ruining one's expectations."Marry in haste and repent at leisure " has to be avoided at all costs in the matter of choice of One's AchAryan. Neo-Sadhus are dime a dozen. On the other hand , There are living examples of SadAchAryans ( True perceptors ) existing today at many parts of India and guiding their disciples with great affection and competence. Their standards are very high in selecting a Sishyan . Let me comment further: At 06:43 AM 6/27/01 -0000, you wrote: >I have a request to the group. > >In this age where there are a lot of new people who make tall claims >that they are God's incarnation and also have some following, in >addition to some mystical powers that they exhibit sometimes, how >does one go about culling out the wrong ones ? Yes, You are right about all kinds of fake gurus claiming all kinds of accomplishments and offering all too easy solutions to a serious searcher. One has to cull them out by questioning their Jn~Anam , VairAgyam and anushtAnam and the paramparai that they come form . True gurus do not go after sishyans like collecting victory points. The true sishyans come to them thru Bahgavan's grace. Excellent descriptions of Who is a true Guru and what his qualifications are have been described precisely in Swamy Desikan's Sri NyAsa Vimsathi SlOkams 1-4. The qualifications of a True AchAryan , a true Sishyan and their relationships are beautifully described in these four verses. In today's scene , I can identify a few AchAryans , who live up to these demanding requirements and come to the rescue of their sishyAs. Yes, they do exist.I am fortunate to have one such great SdaachAryan as My perceptor and every thing. > >Is it possible to create an awareness or post like true candid >reviews/experiences whereby someone who wants to choose a guru gets >atleast some idea & info on whom to rely/trust and so on, atleast >whom to avoid ? > Yes.The tests again are Knowledge about ShAsthrAs, AachAram , anushtAnam , the lineage they come from and their VairAgyam . >It is my opinion that "Guru" : >1) is NOT a Profession -> like I was a lawyer/doctor/engineer and now >I am a guru from tomorrow and get paid for my services / discourses/ >consultation > >2) is NOT a Post -> like I was a vice-chancellor and now I became a >Chancellor by some process say experience or recommendation, >seniority whatever. > >To me it seems logical that "Guru" is a state that someone attains to >by the grace of god and is sent by God and is God himself in a human >form. Please correct my views if I am wrong. No, You are absolutely correct in your descriptions.The AchAryan is indeed the God on earth. > >But when such glory is to be attributed to a Guru...how does one >distinguish the true one from the rest. Through the help of others , who have searched in vain and found their true Guru. V.Sadagopan -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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