RE: [SriRangaSri] Idol/Icon/Vigraha - Discussions in SrI Ranga
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• June 8, 2001
Dear member, You wrote :- Dear learned members, I need an answer to the following question. As per gita, Is atmasakshataram absolutely necessary for one to start bhakti yoga? If not why not - prove using slokas from gita + commentaries. As per upanisads can it be established unmistakably, that atmasakshatkaram is absolutely needed for bhakti yoga? If so provide detailed quotes and these quotes should be unmistakable and generally agreeable to wider audience, (in the sense strongly provable.) I am having the time of my life discussing gita with sri SMS chari who is writing a new book on Gita. His book will be something very unique. I don't think a similar book has been written before. Adiyen krishna ******************************************************* I will try to answer this question from the Gita Bhashya of Bhagavad Ramanujaacharya.Please refer the book as you read through the mail. >From the point of view of the saadhaka,the answer to the above question is "Yes,Atma sakshatkaara or self realization is an essential requirement for attainment of Devotion to the Lord in the true sense".I will present my understanding in the sentences below. The Transition of the mental state of an aspirant after the Highest Good from atmaavalokana or self realization to Devotion to the supreme God Sri.Krishna is mentioned in the following places in the Gita. Chapter 6 :- slokha 29,30 and 31. Chapter 12:- slokha 9 to 12. chapter 18:- slokha 54. For the above question,i feel chapter 12,slokha 9 to 12 is straight to the point.Infact the slokhas 11 and 12 bring out the importance of Self realization for the attainment of Bhakti to the Lord,So i will try to concentrate on these two particular slokhas. In slokha 11,Sri Krishna tells arjuna(i.e us)that if he is incapable of doing his Yoga i.e working for him or serving him exclusively,then he should practise Karma yoga(akshara yoga taught in the first six chapters)so that he becomes a person of controlled self i.e mind.Sri.Krishna makes this point more clear in the next slokha when he says "Better is Knowledge of the self when compared to repeated rememberence of the Lord devoid of love or devotion to him for the self is more at peace in itself than an imperfect devotion to the Lord,Better is meditation on the nature of self compared to improper knowledge of self, Better is selfless action(Karma yoga) compared to improper meditation on the self(jnana Yoga) for by such selfless action the person attains peace of mind". Sri.Ramanuja in his Geetha Bhashya says that Bhakti which is a state of mind is itself an attainment which can be understood from the above slokhas and Karma yoga and/or jnana yoga is useful to the extent of the self realizing its true nature both in itself and as related to the supreme Brahman or Sri.Krishna as his shesha(part completley dependent and for Sri.Krishna). The peace of mind mentioned in the above slokha is the state of mind,when the mind goes easily and effortlessly with Love only to Lord Sri.Krishna as the person of self realization views all the other selves as similar to his own self and the only entity transcendental to himself(Individual self) and prakriti deserving adoration is the supreme Brahman himself.Further Bhakti,a unique state of mind is not only an achievement in itself but also a means for further attainment i.e attainment of the supreme Brahman itself.This is mentioned in the last portions of chapter 11 and chapter 18 slokha 54. Now all that has been mentioned above regarding the cause of Bhakti is from the point of view of the saadhana of the saadhaka himself.But,in the charma slokha 66 of the Gita in chapter 18,Lord Sri krishna says that if a person surrenders himself to the Lord,then the Lord himself becomes the means for the cause of Bhakti if the aspirant wants that or he becomes an independent means to attain the Lord himself. So,Atma sakshaatkara is not necessary if one adopts prappathi towards the Lord.But,this does not mean that knowledge of self has no place in prappathi marga,because even a prappana has to atleast have a theoretical knowledge of his true self and try to abide in it to his best for it helps him in his conduct in this world as a prappana though he might not have a complete practical experience of the same as the Bhakti yogi does. Hope the above helps.Any errors above are mine and feel free to write to me.Meanwhile i will try to bring pramanas on the same from upanishads. Sri.Krishnaarpanamasthu Suresh B.N. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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