Re: Instructions for the neophyte
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Sadagopan • Fri Jul 24 1998 - 05:13:16 PDT
At 11:13 PM 7/22/98 -0400, you wrote:>
>namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya,>
>Dear vaishhNavas,>
>BTW, I happened on an interesting shloka in vedaanta-sutra (2.1.11):>
>"tarkApratishhThAnAdapi anyathAnumeyamiti chedevamapyavimokshaprasaN^gaH">
>Would vaishhNavas please shed light on the shloka ?
-Ram-
Dear Sri Ram Gopalaswamy and Fellow students of Brahma sutrAs :
The above sutras you quoted are two adjoining ones :
2.1.11 tarkhAprathishtAnAdhapi
2.1.12 anyathAanumEyamithi chEth , yevamapyavimOkshaprasanga :
They belong to the dhvitheeya Paadham of Dhvitheeya adhyAyam
of Bramha SutrAs that have been heavily commented upon by
the BhaashyakArAs and elaborated by Swami Sri Desikan
in SarvArtha Siddhi .
The First One deals with the concept that
reasoning without the help of the scriptures is not
dependable in Brahma vichAram .Here , AchArya RaamAnujA
in his Sri Bhaashyam refers to the Saankhya system view
based on reasoning can not topple the VedAnthic view based
on the scriptures .
The SaankhyA system is elaborated in Kapila SutrAs
attributed to Sage Kapilaa . The commentary ( kaarikhA )
for those sutrAs were written by Isvara KrishNA ,
who lived around 250 AD . The SaankhyA system , originally
theistic , deals with prakrithi ( matter ) and "its evolutes" .
YogA system evolved out of it.
The soul(Jeevan ) is a passive witness of the happenings in
the matter in this system , particularly in the physical body ,
which is a product of matter that provides a home for the Jeevan.
Kapila darsanam argues that ignorance of the nature of matter
and of the Self (soul ) leads to worldly suffering .The true
understanding of the two leads to final release from bondage
in this system .It points out that a mere knowledge of
matter and self would release one from worldly sufferings .
AchArya RaamAnujA intreprets this Sutram and states that
the Lord Can not be proved by Inference .Swami Sri Desikan
in his PradhAna sathakam has commented in this context
about the three PramANams :Prathyaksham , anumAnam and
Saasthram and has pointed out that Saasthram ( Vedam )
is the most important among the three and then he went
on to point out that VedAntham (Upanishads ) is most
prominent among Saasthrams and Purusha Sooktham is
the most prominent among VedAntham .
The Second Suthram (2.1.12 ) , the suthrakAra
according to Sri RamAnujA points out that
arguments given by one system (saankhyA )
are capable of being defeated by another
( Bauddha here ) "intelligent " and
fallacious set of arguments that does not
take into account the scriptures (sruthis ).
He establishes the primacy of the scriptures
as authority and that the reasoning going against
them is NO PROOF of knowledge and such reasoning
can not be successful in contradicting
the scriptural texts .
The 14th sutram in this paadham is very important ,
where the suthrakAra points that Brahman with
the sentient ( Jeevans ) and the insentient(Prakruhti )
as its body does not experience pleasure or pain like
the individual jeevan .
AchArya RaamAnujA goes onto establish the great darsanam
of VisishtAdvaitham thru his Sri Bhaashyam with its
five central doctrines :
1. Brahman has attributes and is identical with Sriman
NaarAyaNA .
2 . World and souls are real .
3 .The relation between Brahman on the one hand and
the world of chethanams and achethanams on the other
is is that between body and soul .
4. Brahman is the ONLY ONE having the World as its
attribute leading up to the name of VisishtAdvaitham
to this darsanam .
5.Bhakthi and Prapatthi are the means of Moksham .
How can we discharge our debt of gratitude
to Sri Bhagavadh RaamAnujA ? The only way is
by studying Sri Bhaashyam and other 8 granthams
blessed by him and the great aruLiccheyalgaLs
of AzhwArs and other achAryAs .
The AchArya RaamAnujA CD ROM project is a modest
effort in that direction particularly aimed at the
younger generation and their parents .Hence , Please
join in and make it happen . Those in India can
contribute in Rupees directly to Professor Alwar
and those abroad can help with their currencies
and help us accomplish a kaimkaryam of the kind that
has hitherto not come into focus .
PLEASE PARTICIPATE TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY .
Thanks to you all ,
V.Sadagopan
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