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Re: gyAtRtva, kaRtRva and bhOktRtva

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kuntimaddi sadananda • July 30, 2002 


--- jasn sn  wrote:
>
> Certain interesting questions are addressed by the two
> mails attached below.

Quite an interesting discussion. Whether there exists really free will or not was one of the
frequently raised topics in the advaitin list serve as well.   From advaita perspective kartRitva,
bhoktRitva and j~naatRitva are bhaava-s or notions in the mind of jiivas due to adhyaasa. 

There are couple of more sloka-s from Geeta that also some bearing on the topics.  

1. nahi kaschit kshaNamani jaatu tushTasya karam kRit
   kaaryate haviashhaH karma sarva prakRitaiH gunaiH||

Thus there is no one who can refrain from perfroming action even a second.

On the other hand,

2. prakR^iti eva cha karmaaNi kriyamaanaani sarvashhaH|
   yaH pasyati tat aatmaanam akartaaram sa pasyati||
 - notice sarvaani karamaani - all actions - are being done by prakRiti alone.  one who sees that
one self (aatmaanam) is a non-doer is the real sear (of the truth) - saH pasyati. 

2a Naiva kaschit karomi iti yuktaH manyeta tatva vit - the knower of the truth - tatva vit - has
realized properly that I am not the doer of any actions' - giving a meaning that he was never a
doer.

3. prakRiteH kriyamaaNaani guNaiH karmaaNi sarvashaH|
   ahamkaara vimuuDaatmaa kartaaham iti manyate||
 again sarvaaNi karmaani - all actions are due to prakRiti alone.  only an egotistical deluded
jiiva thinks I am the doer of the action -
 Is action on the part of jiiva notional or actual?

In contrast to this-

4. yoginaH karma kurvanti sangham tyaktvaa aatma suddhaye| - the seekers perform the actions
without detachment to purify themselves.

5. mayi sarvaaNi karmaaNi sanyaasyaadhyaatma chetasaa|
niraashiiH nirmamo bhuutvaa yudhyasva vigatajvaraH| 

As a part of karma yoga Lard adviases to offer all actions to him and then with mind free from
expectatons and delusions - do the fighting - yet actions is recommended from arjuna.

One way to interpret all these apparent contradictions is - as long as jiiva has the notions that
I am the doer - kartR^itva, bhoktRiva, jnaatRitva bhaava-s then the advice of the Lord is for one
to perform with attitude of complete surrender to the Lord - offering everthing including slowly
even the notions that he is the doer - since in the final analysis - slokas 2 and 3 reaffirm that
it is prakR^iti that does all the actions - Of course prakRiti being jadam cannot do any acion -
being antaryaami it is the Lord that is the propeller in the sameway as -  mayaa adhyakshena
prakRitiH suuyate sa charaacharm- under my direction the prakRiti projects forth all the movable
and immovables.  

I do not know if Krishna Kasyap can get Shreman S.M.S. Chari maama to respond to the questions
posed.  I for one will be intersted to learn his views.  Apparently he has completed his work on
Bhagavat Geeta and will be given for publication.  

Hari OM!
Sadananda



 

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