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RE: gyAtRtva, kartRva & bhOktRtva of jIva

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Krishna Kashyap • July 24, 2002 


asmadgurubhyo namah.

I like some questions since the same questions have bothered me before. This
is one of them.

Yes jnatrtva, kartrtva and bhoktrtva is given to jiva by God. In that sense,
jiva's jnantrtva,kartrtva, bhoktrtva are dependent on God. If it is
dependent then one might ask why should jiva suffer due to the stuff given
by God? It is not so: the freedom is given to jiva to use the karana
kalebara : ie. body mind and intellect as per guidance of shastras. One has
the freedom to get bound or get out of it. Once can get into maya or get out
of it. if one goes against the shastras it it is not God's problem but
individual's. more sins one does, he or she will get into situations and
bodies which may have lesser sensitivity to commit more mistakes.

asmadgurubhyo namah.
Krishna kashyap
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: gyAtRtva, kartRva & bhOktRtva of jIva


SrImate rAmAnujA nama:

Dear bhakta-s

I have a fundmental vedAntic question.

According to viSishTAdvaita, one of the key ontological entities is
the individual consciouness (jIva) which is a distinct & inseparable
attribute of the brahman (the Supreme Being).

So, in order to facilitate the jIva's distinctness & freewill,   is
the ability to know, (gyAtRtva), act (kaRtRtva) and experience
(bhOktRtva) accorded to the individual jIva by the brahman?


aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan




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