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Re: Treatment of a Jeevathma after his encounters in Sorkam and Naragam

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tg_ramkumar • July 1, 2002 


SrImate rAmAnujAya nama:
asmad sarva-gurubhyo nama:

According to SrI-bhashya, the popular belief that the jIva returns 
from heaven  with nill-karma back to the Earth, has been refuted 
in Saariiraka-Saastra (popularly a.k.a known as 'brahma-suutra') 

See the 3rd adhyaaya, 2nd paada. starting with the following suutra:
   "kRtaatyaye'nuSayavaan, dRshTasmRtibhyaam, yethetamanevam ca"

Here the definitive vedaantic conclusion (siddhaanta) regarding
this matter, according to SrI rAmAnuja is that souls do have 
residual karma after they return from svarga (heaven).

Also, not all puNya paapa karma-phala-s are awarded in
naraka or svarga.
For instance, good or bad  dreams experienced right on this Earth,
are also said to be the result of puNya or paapa.

aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
//Ramkumar


--- In bhakti-list@y..., Varadarajan Sourirajan 
 wrote:
> 
> Dear Bhagavatas,
> 
> Adieyen has a basic doubt in the treatment of Jeevathma after his 
encounters in  Sorgam and Naragam.  As per my understanding, a 
jeevathma goes to Sorgam and enjoys the comforts there  in direct 
proportion to the  "Punniyams" in his credit.  Similarly he suffers 
in Naragam which is also in direct proportion to the "Pavams" in his 
credit.  Once this treatment is over, he has a zero balance 
of "punniams" and "pavams" and he becomes eligible for moksham, if he 
realises and practices the "Artha Panchakam".  But my doubt is where 
comes the re-birth of jeevathama again in this "leela vibudhi"  as he 
now has a zero balance of "Punniyams" and "Pavams" (They have been 
spent or compensated in Sorgam or Naragam).  Is it an oppurtunity 
provided by the emperuman to realise HIM and MOKSHAM.
> 
> I request the learned members of this group to clarify the same.
> 
> Azhwar Emperumanaar Jeeyar thiruvadigale saranam.
> 
> Adiyen,
> 
> Varadarajan Ramanuja Dasan.
> 
> 
> 
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