Six-Religions etc (Was Re: addr: M.S.Hari)
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• July 29, 2000
SrI: SrI Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha SrI Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrIvaN - SaThakOpa SrI nArAyaNa Yateendra mahAdESikAya namaha namO nArAyaNa! Dear SrI Narasimhan, .. cont > everytime we who believe > in nAdOpasanA hear a kriti like 'entharO mahAnubhAvulu > anthariki vandanamulu' or 'enna thavam seythanai > yasodA' (both composed by advaitis, by the way!) or > 'krishnA nee beganE bArO', tears fill up our eyes. (my > eyes are moist as adiyEn types this). if this kind of > nAdOpasanA is not Bhakti then what is? The bhakti as you have referred here is "sAmAnya bhakti". The "bhakti" ie.upAsana as prescribed in Upanishads does need such a great bent of mind of craving for SrIman nArAyaNa and it includes "sAmAnya bhakti" within it. The article in SrI Ahobila Mutt's page dwells more on this issue. Please refer to it. In short, those who are capable enough and are immersed in kalyANa guNas of SrIman nArAyaNa (with sAmAnya bhakti) will take up the course of karma-jn~yAna yOga, attain jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram and proceed further to attain ParamAtma sAkshAtkAram by adopting an upAsana as prescribed in Upanishads. Alternatively, one might adopt Prapatti. It depends upon the free-will of the jIvAtma to choose a path of its liking. By the way, in "entarO mahAnubhAvulu" krithi referred by you, the charanam "....SivAdi ShaNmatamula goodamUla muppati .. ..mahAnubhAvulu antariki vandanamu", SrI TyAgarAja salutes all the persons who worshiped dEvatas in accordance with the six religion viz. the supreme-god in each religion as being Siva,PArvati,Ganapati,Subramanya,VishNu and SUrya. SrI TyAgarAja says that these persons who followed either of these religions are mahAnu-bhAvAs who attained mukti due to such worship of their ishta-dEvata (saguNa-brahman). According to the present day advaitins, SrI Adi Sankara Bhagavad pAdAL was a great synthesizer of all these six religions and that it is well incorporated within the advatia vEdAnta. Anyone of these specific six dEvatas can thus be considered as saguNa-brahman for them and intense devotion unto them will make these persons fit to receive the teachings of mahAvAkyas from a Guru. But, unbiassed scholars are of the opinion that SrI Adi Sankara recognized only Lord NArAyana as the SaguNa-Brahman, since in all of his commentaries on SAstras like Upanishads-Brahma SUtras-Bhagavad GIta-VishNu SahasranAma, he has equated only Lord NArAyana to SaguNa-Brahman and all other dEvatas as being sub-ordinate to Him. According to these scholars, some stotras etc on other dEvatas as being SaguNa-Brahman, attributed to SrI Adi Sankara is a later fabrication. Anyway, SrI TyAgarAjar seems to have followed the most popular version of advaita as existed in his period and which is so in current times as well, with Lord RAma being his ishta-dEvata. In this system of advaita, one has to daily worship all these six-dEvatas. However, the sacred water (theertam) obtained after thirumanjanam to SAlagrAma MUrti (Lord VishNu) is only fit for consumption. It is in their current anushThAnam as well. SrI VaishNavas / SAstras donot accept that any of these six dEvatas can be considered as Supreme-God (just for the sake of meditation ie.SaguNa-Brahma upAsana and to be the stepping stone for nirguNa-Brahman realization). SrIman nArAyaNa is the only Supreme Lord who is the ultimate reality and attaining (serving) Himis the ultimate end. > adiyEn is not a scholar like sri hari. but adiyEn > knows one thing certainly. Our Bhagavan has clearly > stated in His Gita that those who have acquired > theoretical knowledge of the shAstrAs and vedAs etc. > are not necessarily dear to Me. That person is dear to > Me who has placed his mind on Me. adiyEn is very clear > that nAdOpAsanA within seconds places my mind, body > and soul at His lotus feet. this to my immature mind > is the most practical way of seeking refuge at His > feet , even if a thousand Haris were to tell me that > it is not sanctioned by the scriptures. > may the learned bhAgavathAs pardon adiyEn for any > erroneous thought! Again, your statements are worded too strongly against a very good SrI VaishNava/Prapanna SrI Hari and that too completly mis-understanding what he wrote earlier. As aDiyEn understands, you equate SrI Hari to be of the category of "Theoritical Knowledged" people devoid of bhakti/anubhava who does not know about nAdOpAsana. If it is not intended by you, aDiyEn apologizes for mis-understanding your intention. If it was intended so by you, it is totally uncalled for. SrI Hari has been working very hard with pure intention to serve the SrI VaishNava community. He has already given many good lectures at Singapore, hearing upon which many have turned from different backgrounds to embrace SrI VaishNavam and follow its principles. I personally know about his good devotion towards Divya-Dampati, AchAryas and BhAgavatas. He has involved himself in lots of financial support to various SrI VaishNava causes. Given that he is only in his mid-twenties and having performed kAlakshEpam under an AchArya on sampradAya granthas, he deserves much more respect, in aDiyEn's humble opinion. His well intended postings to the list are well received by many. Again, if aDiyEn has mis-interpretted your words, kindly pardon me. A note on Knowledge / "Jn~yAna" : Bhakti is basically a form of jn~yAna ie.knowledge. Prapatti is also a specific form of knowledge though needed to be obtained only once. Technically, both bhakti and prapatti are avasthas ie.states of dharmabhUta jn~yAna and thus both are "jn~yAna visEsha" only. Theoritical knowledge on SAstras is very essential to understand Tatva-Hita-PurushArthas properly. Without adequate knowledge on the most essential aspects (the topmost essence) of SAstras, one will certainly have many mis-conceived notions and by their own speculations, they would perform acts which would not be in accordance with SAstras (eg: Mis-conception of what exactly "Bhakti-YOga" is; Misconception on the Supreme Lord; etc). Thats why, AchAryas like SwAmi DESikan blessed us with invaluable works like "SrImad Rahasya Traya SAram" to know the most essential aspects of Tatva-Hita-PurushArtha. As you say, one who does not develop devotion towards SrIman nArAyaNa, though has read various SAstras is not as dear to Lord, as a person who has understood Him well. But, the defect here is not on the "Knowledge of SAstras" in general, but the comprehension/attitude of the person who has studied various SAstras without understanding its purport. Knowledge on SAstras is extremly important and when its properly obtained, it will automatically show its effect - Be it devotion to Divya Dampati, AchAryas, possesion of aatma-guNas etc. By the way, the two most celebrated features of an AchArya are their "jn~yAna" and "anushThAna". Our pUrvAchAryas often compare a bird to an AchArya with "jn~yAna" and "anushThAna" as their two wings. Though one may have good sAmAnya bhakti, unless backed up by proper knowledge on Tatva-Hita-PurushArthas, he/she will delay their attainment of SrI VaikuNTham. However, PerumAL will certainly guide those with sAmAnya-bhakti and will eventually guide them to adopt a sAdhyOpAya and thereby grant moksha for them. A Note on the verse ref. veena nAdam: The statements in SAstras like "Knower of Music alongwith appropriate tALam,rAga etc will certainly reach moksha easily", "Residents of Divya-DEsa will attain moksham", "Recital of bhagavan nAma will certainly make one attain moksham" etc are all fully valid statements. There is nothing wrong in those translations / verses ; Only the import has to be additionally understood ie. they aid one to the anushThAnam of a sAdhyOpAya and thereby attain moksham. The net result is that "By reciting bhagavan nAma, he attained moksham" is a valid statement, and intermediete details are to be understood through other pramAnas which clarify about the sAdhyOpAyas (eg: BhaktyA paramayA vApi prapattyA vA mahAmatE prApyOham na anyathA prApyO mama kainkarya lipsubhihi : Using this pramAna which ascertains that bhakti and prapatti are the one and only sAdhyOpAyas, one has to suitably understand the statements in SAstras like "Recital of bhagavan nAma will fetch moksham" etc). This is the way SwAmi DESikan explains in SrImad RTS. Thus, there is nothing wrong in the translation of the verse. But, one has to additionaly write "notes" on it to make the actual import clearer. Many arguments and explanations has already been given by SrI Hari which act as the "notes" in this case. Final note : There is no doubt that singing/hearing the songs on SrIman nArAyaNa will *very easily* make one focus unto Lord. Thats why PArAyanam of Divya Prabandham and Stotras are very regularly done by SrI VaishNavas. If one has the capacity to mix music into it, it will be much better for one's own anubhavam and the listeners. AzhwArs/SAstras have certainly recommended this and esp.for the kali yuga. aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, anantapadmanAbhan. krishNArpaNam. -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://click.egroups.com/1/4633/5/_/716111/_/965054101/ --------------------------------------------------------------------|e>- -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information
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