RE: support to divya dEsams
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• July 14, 2000
Srimathe Ramanujaya namaha Sri Varara Muniye namaha Dear Varadhan Adiyen Gunaseelan wish to add some info about the some DD's current situation . On seeing the mail I am sure that everyone will be enticed towards the Kaimkaryam and let me pray that this one fulfills the basic need of the DDs which are in bad shape. I do know about srI. thirukkOshtiyUr mAdhavan ,as adiyen was little bit involved in the Thiruvali Thirunagari , thirukkurayalur and Mangaimadam kaimkaryams . As my mother is from Thiruvali Thhirunagari we are very involved with the ThiruMangai Alwar's kaimkaryam. I do know that nithya kaimkaryam at Thirunagari and Thiruvali has been going well under the guidance of Embar thirumaligai families . Utsavams as Karthigail Karthigai, Vedupari, Nangoor GarudaSevai.. are going well under His blessings and from hing involvement from various families. Small description about Nangoor DDs -------------------------------------- And I do know about the situation of Nangoor(9 almost) DD Perumal's nithaya aradhanai ,as one of my relative is doing the aradhanai daily for 4-5 temples. Its really pathetic to see the situation where 4000 andanar families lived once . If any one wants to have a dharsan of Perumal in these DD , I feel Nangoor Garuda Sevai time is the best occasion (thai masa Ammavasai) and on all other days you have to be really lucky that the battar's aradhanai time( once in morning and once in evening) matches with your visit. Exception : Annankoil(thiruvella kulam) - Madhava Battar resides in the same place and he will take care of all your needs and the service rendered by him is excellant. Narayana Perumal Koil (Manimada koil) , Vaiguntha Vinnagaram & Parthan Palli you can be sure of His Dharsan. This is the situation adiyen have seen 5 monhs back and dont know whether it has improved a lot in the recent months , I doubt it. Also adiyen have personally seen the improvement in the Kurayaloor temple after the Samprokshanai for which srI. thirukkOshtiyUr mAdhavan was the key. Earlier , belive me ,it was very bushy and even dangerous to go inside the temple. This is the first temple where Thirumangai Alwar will do Mangalasasanam(around 2 pm) before strating His journey to Nangoor GarudaSevai.Adiyen have seen the temple under that circumstance only and hence the impression and now it has improved a lot and you can have a Dharsan of Ugra Narasimhar beautifully. I do know and visited the Mangaimadam temple this Jan/Feb '00, even during Alwar's Mangalasasanam it was very difficult for the Ghosti to sit and recite. I hope( I may be wrong) the Perumal( Yoga Narasimhar) is in Balalayam for long period(4-5 yrs) . I do know that srI. thirukkOshtiyUr mAdhavan has been taking various steps in completing the kaimkaryam but I am not too sure about the current plan. At the end Adiyen do wish to enroll myself for this program reg the DD kaimkaryam , Adiyen do prefer Thiruvali Thiunagari if blessed. I know that I have over poured due to my Alwar's involvement and let me Pary to Him that this Kaimkaryam be fulfilled by His blessings Thirumangai Alwar Thiruvadigale Saranam. Adiyen Ramanuja dasan Gunaseelan -----Original Message----- From: varadhan@uswest.net [mailto:varadhan@uswest.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:51 PM To: bhakti-list@egroups.com Subject: support to divya dEsams srImathE saTakOpAya namaha srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha srImathE anantArya mahA guravE namaha srIman vara vara munayE namaha dear bhAgavathAs, In the past few years, we have seen a lot of discussions on the list regarding support for srIvaishNavA causes. There obviously are a lot of causes that need support and a lot of ways to support that cause. Some are (i) lack of people to perform kainkaryam to perumaL in the temple, solution being supporting the local people financially to stay there without migrating to the cities (ii) lack of books and/or financial support for scholars, the solution being financial assistance to scholars and so on.. One key thing we all seem to agree upon is that we have the money (due to AchArya/perumAL krupa) to extend financial support to appropriate causes in India. If we look at all the causes needing financial support, nothing is more sad than divya dEsams and AchArya sthalams not having enough money to perform nitya ArAdhanai and key utsavams. {In fact, adiyEn thinks that it is a shame on ALL srIvaishNavAs that perumaL, who has come in archa rUpam for our sake is not taken care of properly, that too because of financial reasons}. Nothing is supported more easily than the above too. We have had a lot of good discussions about this, but very little has been done in this aspect. This email is about a solution to this problem. Currently, there is a very intense effort going on in India to support the divya dEsams that need financial assistance for daily ArAdhana and key utsavams. There is a charitable trust caled sowmyanArAyaNa perumAL emperumAnAr charitable trust that does this. This trust is headquartered in thirukOshtiyUr and first started by performing samprOkshaNam to the temple there - Currently, among many other activities, this trust supports various divya dEsams. The moving force behind this trust is srI. thirukkOshtiyUr mAdhavan bhattar svAmi. mAdhavan bhattar svAmi's family has the kainkaryam of reciting vEdam and divya prabhandham in the temple. He has given that kainkaryam to his brother and spends 100% of his time in supporting divya dEsams. An example - He collected several lakhs of rupees for the srIvilliputtUr samprOkshaNam from various people. He did not stop at collecting from others - He performed thiruppAvai upanyAsams DAILY in FIVE places in chennai during last mArgazhi and gave ALL of the donations from them to the samprOkshaNam. We all know how difficult it is to speak for an hour continuosuly - svAmi did that for 5-6 hours a day at various places for 30 days to gather money for the samprOkshaNam. Such is his dedication to the sampradAyam. He does not work for money - his family's financial needs are in his words " taken care of by perumAL"! due to perumAL's grace, a couple of big industrialists in tamizhnAdu support a lot of causes for divya dEsams. srI mAdhavan svAmi collects money from people every month and does the folowing 1. He has a list of divya dEsams that are in dire need of money for nitya kainkaryam (about 35 so far) 2. He collects money to buy the following - rice, dAL, sugar, ghee, oil, karpUram, incense sticks etc.. for each temple and buys them 3. The industrialists mentioned above give him 2 vans for 4 days at the beginning of each month with petrol etc.. fully paid for 4. He loads up the vans, takes 3/4 people with him for distribution and oversight (these could be any srIvaishNava interested in taking part in this kainkaryam), goes to the diva dEsams. 5. In each divya dEsam, he has a local person that is responsible for the proper use of these items (In some cases, it is the kOvil bhattar, in some cases it is a local commitee, but the bottom line is that he has someone responsible for the proper use) 6. He gives these items, takes a receipt and gets them signed by the responsible person and goes on to the next divya dEsam after worshipping perumAL in the temple. 7. Periodically, depending on the availability of money, he buys vastrams for the different sannadhis in these temples and replaces the old ones. 8. For key utsavams, depending on the availability of money, he might buy special provisions for the utsavam; if he has money left over, he will give sambhAvanai to the adhyApAkAs. 9. He sends receipts and prasAdams to EVERYONE who gave money (even if it is 5 rupees) every month regarding the use of the money. A partial list of the temples he currently supports is some way is given at the end of this email - These are the ones that are in the MOST need. It costs between 2000 rupees and 10,000 rupees per temple (depending on the size of the temple, number of sannadhis etc..) per month. When adiyEn was in India a couple of months back, adiyEn was talking to him about kainkaryam etcc., and he had a very good suggestion - 1. He would like people to "adopt" divya dEsams that need financial support and provide the money necessary for nitya ArAdhanai. 2. He will provide recipts and prasAdam every month (either mail it here, or send it to representative/family in India). 3. If donors want any specific kainkaryam (archanai, kalyAnOtsavam etc..) he will make arrangements for that too and send the prasadams. The key issues in supporting divya dEsams seem to be the following (i) no conduit for money to reach India (ii) no contacts that are appropriate and responsible in India (iii) trust factor - how do we trust that the money is used properly issues number 2,3 are addressed by what srI mAdhavan svAmi does. issue number 1 can also be easily solved - There is a mechanism by which the trust can open an account in a bank in India (let us say UTI bank, since adiyEn is familiar with the process in this bank). This bank has partnerships with a major bank in the US. All we need to do is send a cheque monthly to the american bank (just like any other cheque we send!) and the money will be credited to the Indian account. Of course, automatic payments can be made every month too. So, issue 1 can also be easily solved. adiyEn would like to see the amount of interest in this - More than one person can obviously adopt a divya dEsam - There are a LOT of utsavams that need to happen too - A person may choose to adopt some/all utsavams in a divya dEsam once the daily ArAdhana is taken care of. adiyEn would like interested bhAgavathAs to email me of their interest, and adiyEn will start the process of setting up the accounts etc.. adiyEn will just be involved in setting this up and after that, srI mAdhavan svAmi will take care of everything in India. adiyEn wil be helping him if there is any issue that needs to be addressed outside of India. Also, adiyEn requests bhAgavathAs to give their thoughts so that we can come up with a better process - After all, 2000 rupees is 50 dollars, 10000 rupees is 250 dollars - For most of us, 50 dollars a month is not a big amount, or for that matter for many, 250 a month. adiyEn is sure that, among the 250 or so members of the bhakti list, we can come up with enough people to adopt about 3 5 divya dEsams to start with. adiyEn will attempt over the next few weeks to write on each of the divya dEsams listed below. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan, Thirumalai anandAnpiLLai varadhan --list of divya dEsams/AchArya sthalams 1.sri sathyamurthy perumal temple thirumayyam, 2. sri jagathrakshaga perumal temple-thirukkoodaloor 3. sri ranganathar thondaradipodi alwar -thirumandangudi 4. sri gajendra varadar and kannan temple - thirukapisthalam 5. sri andalakkum ayyan - adhanur 6. kolavalvil raman - pullambhoodhangudi 7. sri jegannadhan perumal -- nathan kovil 8. sri hara saba vimochana perumal -- thirukkandiyur 9. sri dhamodara narayanaperumal -- thirukkannangudi 10. sri thalaichanga nanmadhiyaperumal - thalaichangadu 11. thirunangoor thiruppathigal 11 temples 12. thirukkurayalur - sri ugra narashimmaperumal (birth place of sri thirumangai alwar) 13. thirumangaimadam - sri veeranarashimmaperumal sri thirumangai vallithayar capital and thathiyaradhanai divya kshethram of sri thirumanga alwar 14. thiruvali sri lakshmi narashimaperumal 15. thirunagari - sri kalyana ranganathr sri thirumangai alwar 16. madhura mangala sri vaigunda nathar embar(avathara kshethram) 17. kanchi sri ulagalandhaperumal temple with 5 divya desam and deepam for 4 temples 18. kothangulam - chikkal kadaram the birth place of swami manavala mamunigal 19. kondhagai birth place of sri thiruvaimoli pillai sri deivanayagaperumal temple ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your old buddies are not out of range anymore. 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