Re: On the nature of our faith...
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• January 18, 1999
Namaskaram Bhagavataas, I a freshman student of SriVaishnavism and therefore I wish to be enlightened on my mistakes and short comings. I would like to express my views on Thiru Srinath's article. On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:37:09 PST "Srinath Chakravarty"wrote: 1. Srinath:-)the kalai split represented Srinath:-)disagreements between scholars, which did not surprise her at all since Srinath:-)she didn't know of a single vAdhyAr or vaidEkan who saw eye to eye with Srinath:-)The kalai split according to me, is a function of Srinath:-)human behavior manifesting itself in our AchAryas, I personally feel that this split was not the result of human behavior manifesting in our acharyas. Pride, a Human nature is one single reason that always cause splits in many and any organisation. When Two teachers or leaders don't see eye to eye with each other, it eventually results in a split in the organisation. BUT... Here this is not the case. Sri Vedanta Desikar and Sr Pillai Lokacharya might have differed in their views but pride would have never touched their hearts. If it were that both the personalities had held their differences due to egoism, It automatically disqualifies them to be Acaryas who are supposed to have crossed over these mundane feelings. Therefore to say that the split happened due to the opposing views of Sri Vedanta Desikar and Sri Pillai Lokacharya would be improper. Instead it may be said that both tried to intepret the Vedanta through Vishistadwaita thought with uttermost care and dedication but differences arose by themselves as they always do in all societies and schools of thought. Srinath:-)these matters. Firstly, is this or has this [Srivaishnavism] faith Srinath:-)always been a non-proselytizing one, open only to the ranks of the Srinath:-)Brahmin community? It brings to my mind the much-debated gopuram Srinath:-)episode in rAmAnujar's life, when he supposedly uttered the sacred Srinath:-)asHTAksHara mantra in public. But were Srinath:-)there any converts to Srivaishnavism? I say this specifically because Srinath:-)such a "conversion" [perhaps facilitated by the administration of Srinath:-)pancha-samskAra by an AchAryan] would entail becoming a bRAhmana which Srinath:-)was traditionally not possible for a non-bRAhmana. If this is the case Srinath:-)[i.e., that cross-varNa conversion to Srivaishnavism is not possible by Srinath:-)definition of varNa] then does that make Srivaishnavism a faith that one Srinath:-)may only be born into? I, along with Thiru Srinath harbour this doubt about the proselytizing issue. But it should be remembered that the process of converting a person of another faith or parampara or school of Philsophy was done through debates where the opponent who fails in the argument accepts the philosophy/parampara of the victor Proselytization as introduced by Christian Missionaries or Muslim invaders was almost unknown and unpractised in Ancient India. I am ignorant about the position of a person accepted into Srivaishnavism through a proper Guru and initiation in respect to his caste position but I think he naturally becomes a Brahmin. After all a Brahmin is determined by the nature of this state of mind and Gunas as explained in the Bhagavad Gita. I would like to hear from fellow Bhagavatas on this matter. A Hindu is born or anyone can become a Hindu- which one is right? If a Hindu means a person, born in India, you can only be born as a Hindu. If a Hindu means a person believing in the Vedas, God, Karma, Dharma, Moksha, Samsara, Anyone can become a Hindu as well as a SriVaishnavite. What opinions do Bhaktas hold in this matter? Thanking you, Adiyen Jagan Mohan Naidu _________________________________________________________________
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