Re: Doubts reg: Vali Vadham

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• January 30, 2003


Dear Lakshminarasimhan,
For your argument "IF IT WERE AN INNOCENT DEER, RAMA WOULDN'T KILL IT FOR SITA" , please refer Ayodhya Kandam Sargam 56 Slokam 25 to 32..It says clearly that RAMA asks Lakshmana to bring flesh of black Deer towards  conducting Vasthu Shanthi for the Parnashaala. Lakshmana does that too. Kindly refer all the slokas which I have quoted and all are from Valmiki Ramayanam which our acharyas have been taking as a reference. Iam not quoting anything from external works. So there seems to me lot of hidden secrets in Marichan vadham too as Vali Vadham. We need to have dharmam as a reference when analysing Itihasams like ramayanam and mahabaratham not mere Bhakthi.
Regards,
Nanmaaran.
 
 "Lakshmi Narasimhan "  wrote:Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

Dear Shri Swamin,

Still missing the point!!! If the deer were an innocent one Rama 
would not have killed it and skinned it. My mail was an explanation 
to Smt Swati's mail. Her question was that when Seeta asked Rama to 
bring the deer back why did Rama Kill? Your answer was that Sita 
asked him to kill it if he can't get it alive. I felt that you should 
not have stopped with that because this would de-face Shri Rama's 
lakshanam. Point was that Rama KNEW that it was Mareecha(Lakshmana 
did warn him). And hence the killing of the deer is justified and the 
skinning of it too. Please don't miss to see the point I was 
stressing:) IF IT WERE AN INNOCENT DEER, RAMA WOULDN'T KILL IT FOR 
SITA. Everything worked out as per the plan - i.e Sita asked for the 
deer, which Rama could afford to kill(only because he knew that it 
was Mareecha).

Perspective does matter!

Killing Mareecha and skinning him is never denied. 

Archive Reference:
http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/nov96/0065.html

Reference - Swami Desikan - Raghuveera Gadhyam: 
mAricha mAyA mruga charma parikarmitha
nirbhara dharbhAstharaNa ! Jaya! Jaya ! 

Translation - 
O Lord whose darbhAsanam is decorated by the skin of 
the deceitful mArichA , who appeared before You as a 
beautiful deer ! Hail to Thee! Hail to Thee!

It is very easy to quote from literature if one knows the language of 
the literature and go through it. I would definitely love to quote 
the literature. But, as per our Shri Vaishnava Sampradayam, we learn 
from our elders and literatures are just for reference(not for 
interpretation). People need to know the appropriate context, the 
justification and the INNER meaning behind the same - which is done 
only by learned scholars in the tradition based on what they learnt 
from their acharyas(traces back to purvacharya) - and this is what I 
attempted i.e just provide the explanation given by elders.

Kindly apologise my ignorace!

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
Lakshmi Narasimhan

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