Quiz : Adiyen's answer
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• January 26, 2002
asmad gurubhyo namah srimathe srivan shatakopa sri vedanta desika yatindra mahadesikaya namah srimathe sri lakshmi nrisimha divya paduka sevaka sri narayana yatindra maha desikaya namah **** QUIZ: What is the MOST REVOLUTIONARY CONTRIBUTION to the world of Hindu Philosophy by Sri Ramanujacharya and why is it so? - please explain. Let me offer my heartfelt thanks to all the folks who have thought about this QUIZ and answered it in various ways. From different perspectives, the answer to this QUIZ will be different and hence there may be several answers to this question. It is hard summarize the contributions of mahans like Jagadguru Sri Ramanujacharya in a parpagraph and state that this is the most important contribution. Sri Mani Varadarajan and myself were discussing for several weeks about the topic of prapatti and whether there is proof in our shastras for supporting advaraka prapatti as opposed to bhakti yogam ( which is same as sadvaraka prapatti). Please note: prapatti for direct attainment of moksam is known as advaraka prapatti. bhakti yogam also requires prapatti, but this is anga prapatti or surrendering to attain bhakti yogam. Hence even bhakti yogam also involves surrender but the goal is to effectively begin, maintain and end bhakti yogam. with this introduction let me step back and analyze this issue further. 1. We cannot argue in a global basis about sri Ramanujacharya's works. We can only take a view of our vedantic world and assess sri Ramanujacharya's contributions. We cannot take the whole world since christians or atheists or anyone else may not appreciate SriRamanujacharya's contributions. 2. We cannot support our principles using our own pramanams. for example, if one asks what is the pramanam for direct prapatti in the shastras, we cannot quote alvars views, since in vedanta, alwars views ( though it has the highest truths explained better than the vedas) will not be admissible in general. A saiva vedantin may want to ask: "why not nayanmars?. We should take their view to be of the highest truth!". Any experience based view, such as a yogis' views, or Alwars' views or any nayanmars's views will not be acceptable to all people who are vedantins ( who agree that vedas are valid testimony). Note that one's experience cannot be shared by others. 3. Only vedas are the pramanam which is commonly accepted by all vedantins. 4. Concept of surrender as an angam to bhakti yoga is commonly accepted and is not a special finding of visistadvaitam. In many places of Sri Sankaracharya's bhasyam on Bhagavadgita, surrender is mentioned for the attainment of jnana or sadhana for moksha. Hence the concept of surrender to start and perform bhakti yogam is not new and not a distinct contribution of Sriramanujacharya. 4. If you take Gita bhasyam of sri Ramanujacharya, since prapatti is mentioned as anga or a means to attain bhakti yoga in that context, that is sort of similar to other bhasyas. 5. However, in Sharanagati gadyam the advaraka or direct prapatti is established as a valid means by Sri Ramanujacharya. This is the only method which is available to every one. If one looks at the vedic verse : tasmat nyasam esam tapasam atiriktam ahuh, the Nyasa here can be taken as direct prapatti or anga prapatti for bhaktiyogam. It was Sri Ramanujacharya's revolutionary greatness to have given prominence to the meaing of advaraka ( direct) prapatti as the meaning of this vedic passage, by writing sharanagati gadyam clearly as direct prapatti and not anga prapatti. 6. Note that Nammalwar's life is explained by both Tirukkurugai Pillan and Eeedu as ; alwar prapannar dehayatraiyil avar bhakti yogi. (sorry for my mistakes in this quote because I dont remember the exact quotation). this means that Nammalwar is prapannar but in his life here he was a bhakti yogi naturally. No doubt that Nammalwar performed bharanyasam in the ahalahillen slokam which is for direct moksham. Nammalwar's words are ultimate; however cannot be used to convince other vedantins. Due to all these reasons, Sri Ramanujacharya has established the validity of Advaraka prapatti or direct prapatti to attain moksham without bhakti yogam or any other sadhanas, using Vedas as the basis so that it is commonly acceptable to all vedantins. This I think is the most revolutionary contribution of SriRamanujacharya. All other contributions such as opening all this method to all castes and creed etc. are all derivative of the shastraic sound basis which Sri Ramanujacharya established. Such shastraic basis was not given before the time of Sri Ramanujacharya. Sharanagati gadyam is that work where this is well established. This is adiyen's humble view. I dont know whether this view is right. However, by asking this QUIZ and trying to Answer this QUIZ, the unintentional good effect is that, we think, get the views of other bhagavatas, and speak and reminisce the lotus feet of our divine acharya Sri Ramanujacharya, who is so kind as to accept adiyen as one of his servants of his servants. yo nityam achhyuta padambuja yugma rugma vyamohatah taditarani trinaya mene asmad guroh bhagavatosya dayaika sindhoh Ramanujasya charanau sharanam prapadye adiyen Krishna Kashyap -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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