Re: saranagathi & karma===question
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• January 22, 2002
srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha srImadh varavara munayE namaha Dear Smt Raji, The meaning of those Sri AndAL's verses are to be read like this. She goes to say that once we (the jeevAtmAs) get Bhagavath sambhandam, out of His pure love towards us, and henceforth doing kainkaryam to Him by either reciting (vAyinAl pAdi), or even just think about Him (manathinAl sindhikka), or pay obeisance with flowers (thoomalar thoovi thozhudhu), He will either neglect the past misdeeds (here to be interpreted as the karma) {this is the vadagalai position} or consider the past misdeeds as bhOgyam for Him {this is the thenkalai position} and get us absolved of them If this is so, what about the ones that we have earned in this birth. Sri AndAL says, even those will be gone like an ash when contact is established with fire. poya pizhayum puhutharuvAn - He removes the past misdeeds from our account ninranavum - the remaining ones in this birth, theeyinil thoosagum - Just like, anything that falls into fire will turn into ashes. AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh RAJI SRIDHAR< > cc: Subject: Re: saranagathi & karma 21-01-02 ===question 12:57 PM Pranams After reading this and Sriman Krishna's mail and Sriman's Prabhu's reply on Karma, I have a doubt. Hope someone clarify this. "Poya pizhayum puhutharuvan ninranavum theeyinil thoosagum" What exactly Andal is conveying in this? Pranams raji sridhar --- tg_ram wrote: > SrImatE nigamAnta-mahaa-dESikaaya nama: > thanjap-para-gatiyait-thandharuLvOn vaazhiyE ! > senthamizh thoopuL thiru-venkaTavan vaazhiyE ! > > > Obviously, "SaraNAgati" in the sense of > "high-degree of > Surrenderedness to SrIman-nArAyaNa" does not > immediately cause the > physical/gross/material body to disappear nor the > sins/merits that > must be experienced through the gross body. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The information contained in this message is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressed individual or entity indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person). It must not be read, copied, disclosed, distributed or used by any person other than the addressee. Unauthorised use, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Opinions, conclusions and other information on this message that do not relate to the official business of any of the constituent companies of the SANMAR GROUP shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the Group. If you have received this message in error, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by e-mail. Thank you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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