Re: intro Bzzzz_23
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• December 28, 2001
dear sandeep as far as i know vaishnavisam was in a typical condition at ramanujars time. he worked flying between karnataka kanchipuram and srirangam. before that there was a great sage called natha muni who complied the nalayira divya prabantham, the sacread saying of alwars compraising 4000 hymns. there are 12 alwars including one woman called andal. out of them periyazhwar, andal, madurakavi, thondaradippodi and muthal alwarkal- pey, bhootham and poigai- were brahmins, the great nammalwar was a vellala, kulashekara perumal was a king of kerala, thirumazhisai was a harijan, thirumangai was a king come robber, and tiruppan alwar was a panar. Alwars (in pure Tamil "AzhwAr") means "One who immerses himself". They really, deeply immersed themselves in their devotion and bhakti towards the Lord Sriman Narayanan. The AzhwArs are belived to be incarnations of NithasUris of Sri Vaikuntam, namely, the weapons, the Vanamaali, the GarudA, etc. their life span is a matter of debate, many scale it from dwapara yuga to kaliyuga upto 8th century, which is reported as a last sangham age, the books like akananooru, purananooru, chilappathikaram, tirukkural and thevaram hymns by saivites may be of the same age. but by the time of 10th century all the paasurams(hymns) were lost (may be due to the riots), and it was nathamuni who found it back by his meditation power by the grace of our perumal. but at the time of ramanujar the situations had a political image. battles began between hindus and muslims, battle between buddists and vaishnavaits more over battle between saivats and vaishnavaits, what a pitty, with out knowing the deeper sense of siva and vishnu, pepole took armour. i think you need not worry that the other alwars are nonbrahmins. for the lord there is no caste barrier. you know who is a real brahmin? have you heard that janmana jayathe soodra* karmana jaayathe dwija* vedabhasethu vipra* brahma jaanethu brahahmana* that means you must realize the ultimate truth, there is no buddists, saivaite, or vaishnavaite born, they are only made, have you heard this- Communists are not born but are made- this is a similler case. Can you find a real brahmin.worship is as you like that is the flexibility in hinduisam. see i am a saivaite brahmin, dont even have a distant relation to tamil naadu and vaishnavism. pepole of kerala are generally belivers in both.i got intersted in tamil vaisnavism through series articles in THE HINDU daily and now i enjoy the sacread hymns.now a days i and the author of www.srivaishnavam.com site Mr. VEnkat are doing a combined work of translitrating the tamil hymns to malayalam. i consider it as a small offering to the lord. a i worship siva also. you have to see the story of tiruppan alwar and tirumazhisai alwar. even thirumazhsai was a saivaite later he was converted as a vaishnavaite by pey alwar he himself says in one of his paasurams as "saakiyam katrom, saman katrom, sankaranar aakkiya aagama nool arinthom bhakthiyal senkatkariyanai sernthom yam thethilamaiyenkatkariya thontril means-"After my futile efforts to know the supreme principle through jainism, buddhism, and saivic philosophy, I am blessed by sriman Narayana to take refuge at the Lotus feet of Sri Devi and have escaped all problems and misfortunes since then." www.srivaishnavam.com www.ramanuja.org www.srivaishnavan.com and the links there in gives you good referance materials. if you want some introductory articles i can also help you. but these sites are excellent. you can enjoy vaishnava tradition at your level. i am also a child, sometimes the discussions are beyond our limits. but their importance does matter. you can find many articles in the bhakthi list archives of ramanuja.org. this what i understood about the history of tamil vaishnavism. the scholors can of this group can certainly add up regards and a HAPPY NEW YEAR sreekanth ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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