Re: Self Intro & a question about Bodhayanavritti
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• December 26, 2002
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha Dear Shri Swamin, Adiyenudaya Pranams. I read your mail and was very much curious to find out more about this subject and questioned my thirutthagappanar Shri Venkatapathy swamy. Following is his explanation based on what he has learnt from great scholars, accompanied by my flavors and opinions: First of all, according to me, one should keep in mind whom they are talking about before making a statement like "Sri Ramanujacharya did not have access to Bodhayana's work in it's original form and quotes like, from Ramanuja's commentary on first sUtra: "....pUrvAcharya Sankshiptuhu...TanmatAnusarena.. ". One should remember they are talking about the great Shri Bhashyakarar who is one amongst those handful who attempted to write a Bharshyam for the Brahmasutras and succeed in giving a convicing explanation thus supporting popular philosophies. Hence, if he has used a word, he would definitely mean something and it is more appropriate to find out what Shri Bhasyakarar meant by that word, from his followers. But, looks like, the person who made those statements had attempted to interpret the same on his own. My sympathies for him. Shri Venkatapathy Swamy: The following are based on the purvacharya granthams and are not of my own self introduced" explanations. "pUrvAcharya Sankshiptuhu...TanmatAnusarena" What is Bodhayana Vritti? I would like to give a small introduction on Bodhayana Vritti before I begin the explanation on the subject of the argument. Vedas have been classified into two, one being the Karma Kandam(aka purva kandam) and the other is known as Brahma Kandam. Karma Kandam, due to its vastness needed a briefing(gist). Shri Jaimini wrote suthras(aphorisms) for the same. It was called as Purva Mimamsa. Similarly Brahma Kandam(upanishads), due to its complexity that might lead to misinterpretations needed a briefing. Shri Veda Vyasar wrote suthras(aphorisms) for the same. This was called as Brahma Sutra. Both Purva Mimamsa and Brahma Sutra(aka utthara Mimamsa) needed further explanations and thus came the Vritti(explanation) from Bodhayanar for the Purva Mimamsa and the Bhashyams(explanation) from Shri Shankarar, Shri Ramanujar and other great scholars. So, Bodhayana Vritti is the explanation and opinions of Bodhayanar and the tradition that followed him. What was Shri Ramanujar's attempt? Bodhayana Vritti had been referred by advaitins. In order to put forth a valid argument against the same or may be in order to understand more about these references, Shri Ramanujar wanted to know about Bodhayana Vritti. He went upto Kashmir where after lots of attempts he finally managed to get the original script of Bodhayana Vritti for one night. It was that night when Shri Kooratthazhwan completely memorized the Bodhayana Vritti and based on this knowledge Shri Ramanujar was able to completely understand the same and complete the Shri Bhashyam with the appropriate replies to other philosophies including advaita. What is "tadanusarena"? Tad-Anusarena:Based on that, or to be even more precise - "According to the script". This would mean 2 things: 1) the Bhasyakarar(the one who explains) has read it based on his vyakarana nyana(knowledge of the language) which would lead to 2) Vishwamithra Shrushti aka misinterpretation i.e self introduced explanations and thoughts - this would mean, not based on "munnor mozhindha murai" i.e lack of authenticity, to be more clear, this is not according to the author but this is according to what I think the author would have meant. Advaitis, including Shri Sankarar use the term tadanusarena" by which, the Bhashyakarar(Shri Sankarar in this case), means, "according to the vritti" - that is - "according to what I understand from the script". What is "tanmatanusarena"? Tanmata-anusarena: Based on the author's opinion - pUrvAcharya Sankshiptuhu. .TanmatAnusarena - that is, based on what I learnt(blessed with) the purvacharyas explanations and based on their opinions and traditions followed, I attempt to explain the Sutras ("suthraksharani vyakyasyanthe"). By this the Bhasyakarar(Shri Ramanujar in this case) means that, "I have the knowledge gained from the great scholars(i.e the authors) of the past and the followers of their tradition" and hence the information that I use is AS IS" and not according to what I interpreted - which shows 1) "Munnor mozhindha murai thappamar kettu" 2) Authenticity i.e no vishwamitra shrushti i.e no self introduced explanations. This is why Shri Ramanujar has carefully chosed the word "tanmatanusarena" instead of "tadanusarena". Shri Ramanujar did not try to interpret Bodhayana Vritti on his own. He used the text to understand it, but he got the author's views and opinions from those who followed the Bodhayana Vritti. So, the text was used to know the finer details while the actual understanding was gathered from the right people. And hence, it is more appropriate to say "Tanmatanusarena" which means based on their opinion rather than saying "Tadanusarena" which means "this is what it says which actually means this is my understanding of what it says". According to Shri Vaishnava tradition, Shri Manavala Mamunigal (jeeyar) is the re-incarnation of Shri Ramanujar. One of the qualities that proves this belief is the title that Shri Manavala Mamunigal achieved - "Vikasawak Shikamani" i.e "Poyyilladha Manavala Mamuni" i.e the person whose statements contain no lies. He was given this title only because he never told his own interpretations or explanations and always quoted only those from any of the purvacharya granthams. All his kalakshepams and granthams contain excellent and accurate references to the purvacharya granthams. Doesn't it obviously follow that Shri Ramanujar's "Tanmatanusarena" and Shri Manavala Mamunigal's title "Vikasavak Shikamani" go hand in hand?;) Thanks to my thirutthagappanar Shri Venkatapathy Swamy. My humble apologies for all mistakes, for they are solely mine and all credits goes only to my thirutthagappanar Shri Venkatapathy Narasimhan swamy Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan, Lakshmi Narasimhan -------Original Message------- From: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 26, 2002 07:47:09 To: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Subject: Self Intro & a question about Bodhayanavritti Recently, I happened to come across a Telugu translation of BrahmasUtra BhAshyA of Sri SankarabhagavatpAdA with commentary by Mahamahopadhyaya Dr. Pullela Sriramachandrudu, a learned scholar in Sanskrit literature and Advaita philosophy, with number of works to his credit. In the introducary portion of the book Dr.Ramachandrudu discussed about BodhAyanavritti. He is of the opinion that Sri Ramanujacharya did not have access to Bodhayana's work in it's original form. To support this argument, he quotes from Ramanuja's commentary on first sUtra: "....pUrvAcharya Sankshiptuhu.. TanmatAnusarena...". His logic is that he would have written "tadanusArena" instead of "tanmatanusarena" if he was actually following vritti grantha. .... Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Srinivasadasa Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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