Re: [Re: Maayanai Mannu Vada Mathurai.... ]
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• December 22, 2000
Dear Members, ============================================================ Mani Varadarajanwrote: (a) The normal order of events during mArgazhi mAsam is FIRST the usha: kAla visesha ArAdhana, including tiruppAvai recital and only then the prAta: sandhyA. The reason for this is that the visesha ArAdhana is done before sunrise, so it belongs before the sandhyA (clarified by Srimat Poundarikapuram Andavan Swami). ============================================================ The order (kramam) which SrI Mani Varadarajan has mentioned is the correct order as far as dhanur-mAsa-ArAdhanam is concerned. This order was followed implicitly; I had performed a laghu-ArAdhanam in usha: kAlam before I took (ezhundaruLa seidal) bhagavath sAligrAga-mUrthy to the upanyAsam venue. This kramam was also told by me to audience before upanyAsam. ============================================================ ============================================================ Mani Varadarajan wrote: (b) The criticism of the Ganga river sounds rather harsh. ......... bhavAnga-patitam toyam pavitram iti paspRSuH | ........ Perhaps it is 'na hi nindA stuti', but still a little bit troublesome. ============================================================ "na hi nindA nindyam nindithum pravarthahE, api thu stuthyam sthOthum" The anuditha-hOma-nindA-nyAyam may also be considered here. But still, AlwAr himself has given importance to river kAveri and has called it superior in purity. This shows that there has been stuthi for a river which is superior to river gangA in an aspect. There are rivers superior to river gangA in one or other aspect. But river ganga is anyway regarded and not disrespected. Also, the nUpura-ganga (at Tiru-mAl-irun-chOlai, kaL-Azhagar sannadhi) is told as "paSupathi jatA-sparsha-sUnyA" by our swAmi. The gangA is called as tri-srOtha. At Tiru-mAl-irun-chOlai, a dhAra (stream) of gangA came to the world from Bhagavath Trivikrama's nUpuram. This dhAra of gangA is free from the sambandam of paSupathi jatA sparsham and thus distinguished from the known river gangA. The dEvathAntara-sambanda-varjanam is the distinguishing feature of this nUpura-ganga, which is held as a special viSEshaNam for nUpura-gangA here. These points may be noted here in this context. This is to substantiate that dEvathAntara-sambanda-varjanam is a purity for SrI VaishNavas. That is, SrI VaishNavas should NOT have dEvathAntara-sambandam. Also, the well-known river gangA is celebrated in the SAstra only because it is having Trivikrama-tiru-vadi sambandam. (Ref. NAn mukan tiruvandAdi - Tirumalizai Alwar - "kurai koNda nAnmukan kundikai neer paidu... karai koNda kaNdaththAn chenni mEl ErakkazhuvinAn...). PArvathi pathi is "Aaru sadai karandAn" who took the gangA in his jatA for getting his sins removed and thus became celebrated as "gangA-dhara" and "Siva". But yamuna has krishNa's full tiru-mEni sambandam. It has been a witness for all the krishNa-divya-leelas. Thanks & Regards M.S.HARI rAmAnuja dAsan (mshari@usa.net) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Search archives at http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/index.html#SEARCH Manage your subscription at http://www.egroups.com/mygroups
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