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Re: Brahman's omnipresence after cosmic dissolution

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tg_ramkumar • August 29, 2002 


Sri:

Sure, the Truth is beyond our minds and
we depend on the SAstra pramANa-s.

but inevitably & unfortunately we all happen to have to 
use our minds in understanding the pramANa-s and the prAmANika-s :(

Anyway, if we leave out spatial, geometric & material dimensions 
and if understand vibhu-tva & aNu-tva strictly in terms of 
pure consciousness only, then it becomes easy to understand 
vibhu-tva and aNu-tva.

but antar-vyApti, bahir-vyApti, jagat-upAdAna-kAraNatvam of the 
brahman apparently involve spatial, material & geometric aspects to
them and as such get in the way of comprehension.

rAmAnuja-dAsa
//Ramkumar


Of course everyone tries to understand the sAStra-s with the
--- In bhakti-list@y..., "sureshsmr"  wrote:
> Sriman Narayana:
> 
> This universe of space and time forms only one fourth of the vyapti 
> of the Purusha or the Brahman or Sriman Narayanan (pl refer to 
> Purusha Sooktam).The other three parts are beyond this material 
> universe of space and time and is Spiritual (Amrutham divi) in 
> dimension and so it is beyond mental comprehension.All sensory 
> knowledge including mental speculation stop there and therefore 
> Sruti/Shastras are the only source to understand entities like 
mind, 
> Jeevathma.
> Thus Anu-tva of the Jiva does'nt mean microscopic material 
existence 
> and instead it means that the Jiva's awareness is limited to his 
own 
> kshetra (shareera) as opposed to the Vibhu-tva of Sriman Narayana 
who 
> is aware of everything in all kshetras.(Bhagavad gita 13-2,3).
> During Pralaya this visible universe or space and time and all the 
> infinite Jivas with all their attributes gets reduced to their 
> unmanifested state which can never be explained as the Jivas will 
> never be a witness for those.It is a state where time stands 
> still!!.The contraction in pralaya does not mean material or 
> geometric contraction!!instead it means becomming unmanifest!!.
> 
> Space or Akasha cannot be brahman because it is jada or achit 
without 
> conciousness.Mind and Jiva are more subtler to space and time and 
> Brahman or Narayana is the subtlemost conciousness of conciousness 
> who is controlling everything from within.
> This Sarvantarayamitva also implies Bahirvyapti.He is in us at the 
> same time He is in all things external to us.Thus He is everywhere.
> 
> This is Adiyen's 2 cents worth.
> 
> Namo Sriman Narayana
> Suresh



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