RE: Free-will vs Pre-determination- poser-4
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• August 8, 2002
Smt JS wrote: "In any case, the doer, the one who makes the act of doing is the lord. Freewill is only a _mayakkam_ ( The issue of doership has been discussed in poser-3)" ... "....In any case it comes out to be god_s problem _ HIS will -HIS writ and hardly the individual_s will." Smt JS / Members, We ascribe "everything" to perumAl to eschew our ego and in acceptance of the fact that we jIvAs are sesas or servants to the Sesi - the Supreme God and nothing is possible without Him. This should not be confused with who is responsible for jIvA's actions. "Doer" does NOT refer to who facilitates or does an act but who really intends to perform an act. Having said that, the full responsibility for our actions squarely falls on us -the jIvAs, and not paramAtmA. The kartA is the jIvA because it is the jIvA that intends to perform an action. A jIvA's intention to do something right or wrong is not governed by BhagavAn's pre-determination. Though PerumAl is antaryAmin - the Ultimate Supreme Controller - we should be very clear here in how and what we ascribe to God and who bears the moral responsibility. The Lord facilitates a jIvA's actions by providing the necessary knowledge. However, the individual /jIvA is responsible for what is done with that knowledge regardless of karmic limitations. Sri VisistAdvaita is very clear in that, no matter what the karmic influence is - postive or negative - an individual / jIvA has enough capacity - freewill - to overcome such influences and still do the right thing. adiyEn, Sriram -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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