Sudarsana and Kartavirya Arjuna
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• August 14, 2001
Furthering our discussion of Sri Sudarsana Chakra as the sankalpa-Sakti of Bhagavaan, Sri Bharat sent this followup email detailing what Sri Rangapriya Swami graciously told him: Re: KArtavIryArjuna: Sri SudarSana once became proud and thought that since he was the Mind and Sankalpa parts of the Lord the latter was totally in his grasp.Since the Lord is the Mind behind the Mind itself He knew his thoughts instantly and told him, "if you want to test your theory,take birth will ALL your power and I'll confront you only as an "AvESa AvatAra" and let's see what happens." Accordingly he was born as KArtavIrya the king of MAhishmati.Due to his innate goodness and power he he ruled the kingdom with total justice.Since he was the principle of the Mind itself he knew the instant any of his subjects had an evil thought and promptly appeared before him to prevent it.He was so powerful he once captured Ravana and tied him up as a "ten- headed-insect" on his child's cradle as a plaything for him. Unfortunately Pride being his weakness he fell foul of Rshi Jamadgni,killed him and thus made the Lord enter the Rshi's son Parasurama as an AvESa AvatAra and was nullified. But he has his uses.He has got the power to locate for his devotees things they have lost.As the SAstra says-Swami said that this is literally true and quoted various instances. To this, I asked: > Dear Maama, > > Thank you for the detailed writeup of what Swami conveyed. > I have a rather naive question I hope you don't mind answering. > Since Sri Sudarsana Alvan is a nitya-sUri, how can we speak > of him getting puffed up with pride? > > Mani > Sri Bharat replied: Right.I asked Swami just the same question.He explained: If he doesn't leave Parampadam he has no problem.He doesn't even have consciousness of his separate self since he is immersed in the Lord.But if he comes into Prakriti Mandala as part of his Kainkarya he may get influenced sometimes,as happened to Garutman also.Sometimes the Lord Himself (being HrshIkESa) may influence his mind (as He did to Arjuna)to point a moral for the benefit of humanity.Even these cases (as in the present instance) end up only to further glorify the Lord Himself.Hence they also come within His Leela and the SEshabhUta's Kainkarya.So there is no harm done to anyone. Sri EmberumAnAr TiruvaDigaLE SaeraNam! -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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