Re: demigod worship
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• August 25, 2000
Sri Murali wrote: > Before launching tirades and deploring the writings of > respected Sri Vaishnavas (like Sri Madhavakkannan Swamin), ... > ... Therefore, adiyen requests new members to > refrain from launching tirades against respected Bhagavatas of this > list. Sri Madhavakkannan's comments echo the expressions of many of the acharyas of our sampradAya. When taking refuge in the Lord, Narayana is reckoned as the groom, the jIva the bride, the acharya the priest, and the sacred dvaya-mantra the mAngalya-sUtra. Saranagati is the wedding. So pursuing any lesser deity or goal is akin to unfaithfulness. However, our acharyas were very careful to write and speak like this in the context of 'upadEsa', or explanations of the deepest mysteries of the Sri Vaishnava tradition. Such upadESa was carefully given to disciples only after the acharya inspected their mental makeup, and in preparation for and enhancing the idea of Saranagati. It was not taught out in the open, where the ideas were liable to be misunderstood. Nor was it taught to someone who has not himself or herself sought the acharya. This is what has happened here. Our group is a large one, with many people of various backgrounds mental makeups. I feel that we must be extremely careful in disseminating ideas which were earlier only taught as 'rahasya'. Not everyone may appreciate, nay, even understand, the deeper idea behind these teachings. The idea of comparing the worship of lesser gods with adultery naturally strikes many as offensive, at first glance. This is because they have not been given the proper context. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the people to whom this strikes as offensive aren't even the proper *audience* for such comparisons. Our acharyas intended this to be told to people who have done samasrayanam and prapatti, and not for the ordinary lay soul who lacks context. At the same time, we have to be very careful to not compromise on our core principles. The key in mediating between these two values is, I think, to be very judicious in *how* we write. The idea that one's relationship to the Paramatma is like a sacred marriage is fundamental to our sampradaaya. But, as expressed above, it needs to expressed with careful attention to every word used, and with appreciation of how ordinary bhagavatas may receive it. In this vein, I totally understand Smt. Shuba's reaction, and I don't think we should ask her and others to withold it. We are, after all, a forum for exchanging opinions, and I don't think she insulted Sri Madhavakkannan or launched any tirade. No one should be above having people react honestly to what they write. I think our group is better served if people are able to express heartfelt emotions such as this out in the open, so we may all learn from the interchange. In fact, I would say Smt. Shuba's openness is a breath of fresh air compared to the stale formalism that often plagues our group. And now a note on an entirely different issue. Lately, I have seen more and more people send messages containing ideas that are based purely on writings from teachers outside our sampradAya. Most of the time, these people quote verbatim from a translation by Sri Prabhupada or another Hare Krishna author. It is also apparent that many of these people have not studied any of the ideas of Sri Ramanuja. Their only exposure is through the works of these outside teachers. I urge strong caution before assuming that these ideas, particularly Hare Krishna ideas, are compatible with the Visishtadvaita Sri Vaishnava sampradAya. Often, the entire approach of these teachers differs markedly from ours. Many times, the translation of the scriptures is out-and-out wrong, or is taken in a totally different manner by Sri Ramanuja. Please do not write with these assumptions when posting to the bhakti-list. Please also do not quote from a Hare Krishna or other translation unless you can verify that it is accurate. This way, we all can maintain our focus on Sri Ramanuja's teachings and make progress without distractions. Thanks for your patience. Mani -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information
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