Re: Prappatti
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• April 7, 1999
Sri: Sri Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha Sri Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrivaNN- SatakOpa Sri nArAyaNa yateendra mahAdESikAya namaha namO nArAyaNA. Dear Sri Balaraman, thanks for your question. Balaraman M Sriram wrote: > Sri Anand Wrote: > > >All other processes like nAma > >sankeertanam, recitation of divya prabandham etc > >should culminate into either of these (ofcourse, in > >the current age, only prapatti is possible). > > How is it possible to make a blanket statement on > other processes like this ? Can this be > substantiated ? Upanishads prescribe Brahma vidyAs ie. the sAdhyOpAyAs that can be performed to obtain moksham (granted by PerumAL, the siddhOpAyam). Bhakti or upAsana can be made in 32 different ways. A yogI chooses according to his taste, a particular upAsanA and completes it and then ascents to Sri VaikuNTham. Upanishads also tell us about nyAsa vidya. This brahma vidya is the prapatti. This also is a sAdhyOpAya. There are no other mentioned brahma vidyAs in the Upanishads - be it nAma sankeertanam, performing archanA to deities etc. This is a well established fact in Brahma sUtrAs, bhagavad gItA etc. PerumAL Himself, in Ahirbudhnya samhitA categorically declares: " bhaktyA paramayA vA-pi prapattyA vA mahAmathe prApyoham na anyathA prApyO mama kainkarya lipsubhihi" PerumAL declares that bhakti and prapatti are the only means (sAdhyOpAyam, to be adopted by a jIvAtma) for which He will grant moksham (kainkaryam at Sri vaikuNTham) & for _no other means_ adopted by the jIvAtmA, will He grant moksham. Granthams like SribAshyam, Prapanna pArijAtam of nadAdUr ammAL, Rahasyatraya sAram of swAmi dEsikan extensively deals with these things. This doesn't mean anything bad about nAma sankeertanam - which is supremly glorifiable. But, nAma sankeertanam is not directly a sAdhyOpAyam; it has to lead to any of the prescribed brahma vidyAs. But, it is for sure that those who perform nAma sankeertanam with great devotion will certainly be aided by PerumAL to adopt a sAdhyOpAya soon to attain Him. Thus, one can also tell that nAma sankeertanam gives moksham, though its implied that it leads to a sAdhyOpAyam. > > In a different thread, Sriman Sadagopan wrote: > > >Thyaga Brahmam recited 15,000 Raama Naamms > >per day and by the age 38 completed 96 crores of > >Sri Raama naama Japam and had the Darsanam > >of Sri raamA and Sri LakshmaNA in the Yaaga- > >SamrakshaNa pose in front of his door . > > Doesnt this show reciting the names of the lord gives us > his darsanam. Is something more required than this ? An > average devotee doing nama sankirtanam chants > 16 X 108 beads X 16 names =27,648 names of the lord. > I would tend to believe this process keeps him > in touch with the lord the whole day than any other > means. Anything else will be more difficult than this. PerumAL certainly reciprocates to His devotees in various ways ; no one can comprehend it. He is bhakta vatsalan. Infact, King Dasaratha was very fortunate to have Lord Rama to be his son. He was constantly enjoying the company of PerumAL and it was not that he saw PerumAL just for a while. But, Dasarathar went only to svargA after his death, since he didn't complete either bhakti yOgam OR prapatti. PAndavAs also were very intimate with Lord Krishna. But, for moksham, they didn't perform either prapatti OR upAsanA, and thus didn't obtain moksham that time. But, during the rAmAvatAram, trijadai performed prapatti for herself and other rAkshasIs, and all of them obtained moksham !! PerumAL is sathya sankalpan and according to His sankalpam, as given in the sAstrAs one has to complete either of bhakti OR prapatti to finally attain Him. Ofcourse, its left to the devotee. If he chooses to be here and spend time in chanting and serving bhAgavathAs etc, PerumAL also doesn't force him to adopt a sAdhyOpAyam. Its left to the individual. The karmA associated with a jIvAtmA is anAdi. The present body of a jIvAtmA is due to the prArabdha karmA. This prArabdha karmA by itself may be giving, say 5 bodies in different species. Once this prArabdha karmA is over, from the bank of sanchita karmA, next prArabdha karmA starts acting ....this complicated process goes on. But, along such a journey, the jIvAtma acquires various sukrudams also. Thus, though according to the current prArabdha karmA, the jIvAtma may be deprived of bhagavad anubhavam, but due to the sukrudams it has accumulated from anAdi, that jIvAtmA will be made to perform prapatti by PerumAL and it will ascend to Sri VaikuNTham. For example, all the rAkshasIs were torturing sItA pirAtti ; but finally obtained moksham. Only due to their sukrudam, they were at asOka vanam with trijadai, sIta pirAtti and finally obtained moksham also due to the prapatti of trijadai for them. In another case, though in the current life one is highly devoted, some pApa(s) of the past may obstruct that jIvAtma from performing prapatti (or other sAdhyOpAyAs). > > If somebody cannot do this simple process regularly > where is he/her going to do nitya kaimkaryam in > Sri Vaikuntam eternally?. Practically speaking > most of us do not have enough time to complete > thier office work or education and/or attend social > functions.Theory is onething and its application > is another. Anyway adiyen just expressed his > humble opinion in a practical stand point.Any > offences may please be excused. > Your point is well taken. But sAstrAs will never go wrong. It is important that we understand it properly. Though people may be degraded (whatever relative scale you want to adopt), it is the most merciful Sri vaishnava Sat sampradAya AchAryas who perform the prapatti for them. Infact, there are many instances where prapatti's glories became pratyaksham (direct observation) itself (eg: some have performed Artha prapatti and have ascended to VaikuNTham, immedietly after the performance of prapatti by the AchArya; some have requested PerumAL to make them ascend to VaikuNTham on a specific dateand have thus ascended to Sri vaikuNTham exactly on that date). But, the only thing needed is the "mahA visvAsam" on the Lord's assurance for prapannAs - Prapatti will NEVER be forsaken by PerumAL. There is not even an iota of doubt that once prapatti gets done by a jIvAtmA, in whatever nishta be it, moksham is assured by PerumAL at whatever time the jIvAtmA wanted. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan ananthapadmanAbha dAsan krishNArpaNam
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