Re: Attribute, Mode of Brahman ?
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• April 2, 2002
Sri P. Srinivasan had asked a question a while back about what it meant for the jIvAtman to be an attribute, or a "mode" of Brahman. > However what adiyen finds difficult to grasp is how the Jivatman is > an attribute of Brahman. Generally an attribute is not a substance > and a substance is not an attribute. But the Jivatman is a > substance. How are we understand Ramanuja's statement that the > Jivatman is also an attribute of Brahman? > Another thing adiyen finds unable to understand is Ramanuja's > statement that the Jivatman is a Mode of Brahman. What is meant by > Mode? Several members hav given learned replies, to which I would like to add a few words. As Sri Srinivasan pointed out, there are three paradigms which Sri Ramanuja uses to describe the relationship between Brahman and the universe: a) Body-Soul (SarIra-SarIri-bhAva) b) Attribute-Substance (viSeshaNa-viSeshya-bhAva) c) Mode-Mode Possessor (prakAra-prakAri-bhAva) Each of these paradigms are somewhat interchangeable, and put together, they round out the picture of how the jIva relates to Brahman. The key to all of these is the idea that the object that is supported (in this case the jIva, but it could be prakRti as well) is incapable of being realized apart from Brahman. This is known as 'apRthak-siddhi' or the 'pRthak-siddhi-anarhatva' of the object in relation to Brahman. This helps us understand what it means for the jIva to be a mode of Brahman. The jIva (mode) is absolutely dependent and incapable of being conceived apart from Brahman (mode- possessor). Not only does the jIva ontologically derive its very existence from Brahman, one can in truth never conceive of the jIva as a substance divorced from Brahman. Consider the example of a cow. The generic essence (jAti) of a cow, the "cowness", if you will, cannot exist in abstracto, i.e., apart from the existence of the cow itself. The cowness is fundamentally dependent on the cow. The same goes for many other attributes such as white, horned, etc. Hence being white or being horned is a mode of the cow, who is the mode- possessor. The cowness, whiteness, or hornedness, while different from the cow itself, inhere in the cow, making the cow the support for these attributes. At the next level, take the example of an individual jIva animating a body. The body cannot subsist as the body we know without a jIva animating it giving it life. When we use the phrase "my body", we are actually referring to "my body as animated and controlled by my jIva". The body as a real entity is totally dependent upon the jIva for its existence in this state and cannot be conceived as such a body apart from the jIva. Whenever the body is mentioned, mention is implicitly made of the jIva. The body is thus a "mode" of the jIva, which is the substance upon which the body depends. [*] (We are ignoring for purposes of illustration the fact that the jIva cannot actually create a body and cannot ultimately control the body's death. This implies that the body is ultimately actually dependent ontologically on Brahman.) The above ideas present the ontological dependence. There is also the epistemological dependence, i.e., the idea that the mode loses its intelligibility or purpose without the mode-possessor. To further understand this, consider the example of an earring and its wearer. The earring, while it has a physical existence of its own apart from the wearer, does not serve any purpose, no reason for existing, apart from the wearer. Its earring-ness is dependent on the wearer. In the same way, the jIva has fundamental meaning and intelligibility only in relation to Brahman, and not apart from Brahman. To summarize, a) the jIva is dependent in its essential nature on Brahman (ontological dependence) b) the jIva is dependent for its purpose and meaning on Brahman (epistemological dependence) c) the jIva cannot be realized apart from Brahman because of (a) and (b) d) ... therefore the jIva is a mode of Brahman The consequences of these ideas are far-reaching. Not only are the universe and the jIva physically dependent on Brahman for their existence, they are rendered meaningless and purposeless without Brahman at their core. Brahman is their ultimate raison d'etre. I hope this clarifies the issue in some measure. aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, Mani P.S. There is a remarkably thorough book which covers many of these concepts. Please see "The Face of Truth: A Study of Meaning & Metaphysics in the Vedantic Thelogy of Ramanuja", by Julius Lipner. It's pretty dense and requires more than one reading, but I think it is well worth it. -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com Group Home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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