Anand's efforts
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• April 22, 2000
Dear friends, Recently there have been several posts that have either questioned the views of srivaishnava acharyas, or suggested that a certain other philosophy is better than visistadvaita, or have ascribed certain tenets to visistadvaita that don't belong in it. Amidst this barrage of posts, Anand has been working hard in clarifying the visistadvaita position. Mani is not around to moderate, and the learned people have been silent. So I wish to say something in support of Anand. He has correctly pointed out the `the distinction between the metaphysical entity Brahman/God and the other metaphysical entity Suddha Sattva, as established in ViSishtAdvaita. First of all, the nature of Brahman has to be understood. Then, one has to understand the appropriate names that can be designated for that Brahman. The most important of the names turns out to be nArAyaNa, since it explains a lot about Brahman and its relationship between all other metaphysical entities which are sentient and non-sentient. Thus, the word "nArAyaNa" as used in Upanishads and SrI VaishNava works is not some "avatAra" of Brahman etc with a particular specific form, but verily the all pervading Brahman, which is madeup of jn~yAna and also has jn~yAna. Brahman takes up many forms and there are specific names assigned to such forms taken by Brahman ie. Brahman characterized by a specific form is also given a name. For example, rAma, KrishNa, vAmana are all names of Brahman associated with a particular form.' And that `when one says that krishNa is the Supreme Person, it refers to the Brahman only, who is also called as nArAyaNa. No one is objecting the fact that KrishNa is svayam BhagavAn ie.KrishNa is indeed the Brahman itself having taken a particular form.' I wish to supplement this by merely adding that shuddha sattva, the substance making up the forms of krishna, rama, vamana, and the four-handed person of the shanka-chakra-gadhaa-dhaari, is insentient or achetana. Shuddha sattva shares this feature of insentience with Prakriti. Thus there is a clear distinction between the paramAtma (who is sentient) and his forms (that are made of an insentient substance). This distinction between the paramatma and his forms does not mean that the supreme being is devoid of auspicious qualities. This (modulo errors of mine) is the position of visistadvaita on this issue. Given this, the recent posts to which Anand has responded would fall in one of three categories. 1. The writer has not understood this aspect of Visistadvaita and has come to erroneous conclusions based on this misunderstanding. If this is the case, Anand has suggested some good references where a clear picture of visistadvaita may be obtained. And I am sure the learned people on this list will clarify questions in this regard. 2. The writer is aware of this aspect of visistadvaita but is attacking it. The writer feels that this aspect has no scriptural justification. In this case, this list is not the right place for a debate. (I request the long-time members to clarify this point.) And moreover, there is a protocol for debate. One cannot jump in and ask for pramANAs that deny one's favourite view which has very little to do with visistadvaita. 3. The writer does not care about this aspect of visistadvaita but is only interested in attacking visistadvaita or saying that some other philosophy is better. I don't wish to say anything in this regard, because I hope nobody intended this. Finally, I request some knowledgeable people to point out errors if any in my description of the visistadvaita position, and also correct me if I have misinterpreted the policies of this list. The last thing I want is to create more confusion in an effort to restore order. thanks Kasturi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2885/2/_/716111/_/956437081/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information
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