Re: [RE: A Question ]
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• April 18, 2000
Dear Shree Anand Vasudevan, You have said that "but emperumanar has said in one of his works that emperuman is nirguna brahmam". Can you please tell me with proper context where this is actually present in Shree Raamaanuja's work? As far as the doubt/contradiction is concerned, please note that the upanishads tell that "Shreeman Naaraayanan who is the Brahman is infinite with infinite divine qualities" The same upanishad says that "Brahman is without qualities (Nirguna)" These two seems to contradict. But when you read the full Veda and understand its purport, you will find that there is no contradiction. When the upanishad says that "Brahman is infinite with infinite divine qualities" this means that the Brahman has qualities that are divine (extraordinary) and only unique for Brahman thus differentiation Brahman from all chit and achits. When the upanishad says the "Brahman is Nirguna" it means that the Brahman has no bad qualities or qualites of matter(Achit - satva/rajas/tamas) and qualites of Jeeva(chit) like having karma,sufferings ect. Therefore the Brahman is ascertained without contradiction as "Brahman always has infinite divine qualites". In fact, the Brahma Sutra identifies Brahman by "Ubhayalingam" - two identifications namely "Ananta Kalyaana Gunaakaratvam" (Infinite with infinite divine qualities) and "Akila Heya Pratyaneekatvam" (Though the Brahman is present inside and outside all Chit and achit entities, Brahman is untouched by all the impurities of chit and achits as Brahman is the soul of all chit and achits and all chit-achits are Brahman's body. Hope your doubts/contradiction raised is cleared. For further doubts/questions please write to me. Thanks & Regards M.S.HARI Raamaanuja Daasan. ================================================= Anand Vasudevanwrote: > --------------------------------------------- > Attachment:Â > MIME Type:Â multipart/alternative > --------------------------------------------- Dear Sri bhagavatas, In his reply, to sri L.Kumar,Sri A.Bharat has said that The simple answer is that-both have GnAna as swarUpa as well as quality;except that for Brahma both are infinite,whereas for Atman(in his free state) only the quality is infinite. he has quoted emperumanar for the above. but emperumanar has said in one of his works that emperuman is nirguna brahmam. doesnt the above contradict? can somebody explain this? Regards, Anand. Success is a journey not a destination. Visit me at: http://members.rediff.com/anandrules ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/3079/2/_/716111/_/956038046/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information
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