Re: Sri BhAshyakArar and Sri VP etc
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• April 16, 2000
SrI: SrI Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha SrI Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrIvaN SatakOpa - SrI nArAyaNa yateendra mahAdESIkAya namaha Dear SrI Bharat, namO nArAyaNa. "A.Bharat" wrote: > Dear BhAgavatOttamas > The criticisms of Srimans Anand Karalapkkam and ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Harikrishna re aDiyEn's notes on the above subject > are perfectly valid wherever they refer to what > aDiyEn actually wrote. Really sorry SrI Bharat, if you felt that adiyEn had "criticised" your posting. adiyEn just wrote in a friendly way to share certain view points towards this discussion. > RahasyatrayasAram.By quoting further instances where > the deep knowledge of DP enlivened Sri EmberumAnAr's > commentaries,he has merely strengthened aDiYEn's > thin argument re Sri BhAshyakArar's inspiration from, > and love for, the Divine verses of the AzhwArs. As you said, adiyEn wanted to assert and further strengthen this point of yours. > The only point on which aDiyEn has a totally respectful > but firm difference of opinion is -re the basic difference between > the approaches of SriVP and SriBH with re to PirAtti. > Sri VP is totally wholehearted and unrestricted in its > statement that He is Sriyahpati and she is His constant > consort,anapAyinI,as in "ahalakillEn iraiyum" and goes on to > present a Stuti which repeats this statement in a hundred > ways so that there should be no doubt on that point. > Kindly see the identical chapter in Sri BH for a striking > contrast in approach. Well, there are instances in SrI BhAgavatham (SB) also wherein Lord is addressed as "SrIyahpati". Infact, even in the gOpikA geetham, it appears around three times or so. But, as SrI Bharat points out, the "SrI" tattva (ie. about pirAtti) is well brought out in SrI VP, than in SB. Sage ParASara's SrI ViSNu purANam (SVP) concentrates a lot on explaining the tattvas. Many passages in upanishad and vEdas are being commented here making it an upabrahmana of a greater value than other purANas. Thats why it had direct appeal for being quoted in the Brahma sUtras, wherever the sUtrakAra (Sage VyAsa alias BAdarAyana) refers to Smrutis to substantiate the siddhAnta he is making. The passage from Upanishad/vEdas taken for discussion in an adhikaraNa of Brahma sUtras is identified by the commentators of Brahma sUtras and when the sUtra itself says that the point established above is supported by Smruti, invariably SrI VP has dealt with the commentry to that passage of Upanishad/vEdas taken for discussion in that adhikaraNa. So, SrI VP became extremly important for understanding the siddhAnta made in Brahma sUtras. Sage ParASara wrote SrI VP to clarify many issues in vEdAnta. His son Sage VyAsa wrote Brahma sUtras to make a very systematic and organized presentation of VEdAnta, clarifying the import of the Upanishads in many difficult issues. Needless to say, Sage VyAsa had studied SrI VP under his father and knows the clarity in which his father has handled many important passages of Upanishads. So, while presenting the siddhAnta in his Brahma sUtras, Sage VyAsa augments his arguments with the help of esp. SrI VP as a Smruti text. In other words, whenever Sage Vyasa asks one to refer to "Smrutis" as a support to the siddhAnta made, we see explicitly SrI VP commenting the very issue in hand. Thats why, SrI VP holds a very high place with regard to the explanation of tattvas and was used by the commentators of Brahma sUtras. Sage Vyasa's approach to SB, which is most likely to be written after the Brahma SUtras, is not to get into deep issues in VEdAnta for establishing the specific standpoints. The job was already done through Brahma sutrAs and SrI VP. Its high time to immerse oneself more in BrAhmAnubhava, enjoying the Swaroopa, rUpa, guNa and vibhUtIs of the Brahman that has been well established already. SB's focus was on these lines and thats why we see many shallow treatment in explaining tattvas, in comparison with SrI VP. A vidvAn here at chennai, who is an authority in SB and is well versed in SrI BhAshya etc re-iterated the point reg. the superior explanation of tattva in SrI VP. For a sample, he just made a comment on the way "Jagat Srushti" / "Jagat kAranatvam of Brahman" is explained in SrI VP and SB. He told that while SrI VP gets into very good details, SB is more on the surface level. He added that, similar is the case with many such issues in VEdAnta dealtwith in these purANas. But, he by himself is a great admirer of SB and said that one will get into a different plane of bhagavad anubhava while reading SB and thats not the case with SrI VP. The bottomline is that SB is glorified as a great purANa for its excellence in presenting the rasAnubhavas, drenching one in great bhagavad anubhavam and SrI VP is hailed as a great purANa ("Gem of the purANas" - as per the words of SrI YAmunAchArya) for its excellent treatment on the tattvas. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, anantapadmanAbhan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get paid for the stuff you know! Get answers for the stuff you donÂ’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/2/_/716111/_/955904359/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information
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